Security and Intelligence Insider Says Infringe on Second Amendment to Fight Terrorism

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Security and intelligence “expert” and oath-breaker Hayden says the best way to deter violent terrorists is by imposing citizen disarmament. [Photo: National Security Law Journal]

“Former NSA Director Michael Hayden says that changes to the 2nd Amendment may be more effective from a counterterrorism standpoint, than more intrusive surveillance,” The Wall Street Journal noted in its description of a video interview with Assistant Managing Editor and Executive Business Editor John Bussey at its Future of Cybersecurity breakfast in New York.

Hayden is more than a “former NSA Director.” He’s a retired four-star Air Force general and has also been Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, serving in various capacities in Democrat and Republican administrations. That means he’s a consummate insider, and that he seamlessly transitions to highly classified positions of power between parties, exemplifying Carroll Quigley’s admission:

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy”

So it’s hardly a surprise that Hayden was one of “Fifty of the country’s most senior GOP national security officials signed a letter saying Donald Trump would rank poor in national security.” In other words, they were giving a boost to Hillary Clinton of Benghazi, Muhammad video, and classified emails on private servers (and then lie about it) notoriety.

His superior solution? Now that we’ve trashed the Fourth Amendment, step up infringements on the Second.

“We could probably do more things that’ll squeeze your privacy a bit, to give us a marginally higher probability that we could have caught the Orlando guy prior to the attack, but not much,” Hayden told Bussey. “Rather than jigger in the Fourth Amendment, and try to increase, only marginally, our ability to predict this event, why don’t you take a look at the Second? And why don’t we begin to wonder about making the guy less efficient who actually conducts the event?”

In other words, resurrect the federal “assault weapon” ban and impose the due process-trampling “terror watchlist” ban.

Maybe the counterterrorism discussion is about some people out there shouldn’t be able to buy any guns and there might be some guns out there that nobody should be able to buy.

This is from a guy who’s taken the oath to the Constitution, and who, for all his supposed “intelligence” and security expertise, can’t seem to fathom that maybe there are people ”we” shouldn’t be importing en masse and embedding throughout the Republic  — people from backgrounds inimical to American ideals of freedom and for whom true security screening is impossible.

He either believes he knows better than the framers of that Constitution he trashes what is “necessary to the security of a free State,”or he knows full well and is tasked to undermine it.

About Author

David Codrea

David Codrea blogs at The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance (WarOnGuns.com), and is a field editor/columnist for GUNS Magazine. Named “Journalist of the Year” in 2011 by the Second Amendment Foundation for his groundbreaking work on the “Fast and Furious” ATF “gunwalking” scandal, he is a frequent event speaker and guest on national radio and television programs.

Comments

  1. a young patriot 12 December, 2016, 20:00

    The only problem with that is that people will not shoot you execution style for hacking their computer. I am willing to bet that if cops ever entered a neighborhood to take guns, they would be put down then and there as as example. To be honest, i think that it may be necessary. Let me be clear, i do not mean killing good honest police officers, but government mercenaries with a badge. There is a difference.

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    • Jeff 13 December, 2016, 14:24

      UN? Strong cities? Giant gun free zones? How much more evidence do we as americans? Voting isn’t doing anything, talking is actually doing a lot. I don’t think the “executive” office will stay none violent for long. The stuff is going to hit the fan in 6 days! I don’t think those in charge are gonna let Donald get there. This is the most anxious I’ve been since 9/11.

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      • Greg K 14 December, 2016, 10:38

        There’s a possibility you may be correct Jeff; however, this may not be the “Focusing Moment” the Progressives are looking for. If they pulled that right now, it would galvanize 70% or better of the US population against them. Believe this my friend, they are looking for the perfect storm, so your comment has some legitimacy. What the Progressives are doing right now is, holding and garnering interest in their agendas. Call it rebuilding if you will. They need the next windmill for their constituency to tilt at (a purpose to exist). Let history be on our side, let them fire the first shots<—- Very Important if it gets big and ugly. We may need help from folk we consider unsavory at this time. Strange Bedfellows, if you will.

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        • a young patriot 14 December, 2016, 21:57

          they cannot cry wolf and immediately lock everyone inside until the wolf has come.

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          • Greg K 15 December, 2016, 12:17

            They don’t have to “lock everyone inside,” we have done that to ourselves. Granted they have set the stage to thoroughly divide folk, but It would be easy to show how technology designed to bring us together, actually, has torn us apart. If I were to push a 2nd Amendment adjustment it would be a requirement for at least one gun in every house. Even that has its flaws.

      • a young patriot 14 December, 2016, 22:02

        well don´t get to hasty, that´s where Oregon got it wrong. Things are starting to look up. Jobs are coming back, liberal states are starting to reform gun control some, and there is a lawsuit against the feds that could potentially shatter all federal gun laws. All in all, things aren´t looking so bad anymore. Though it is imperative to stay vigilant and to help support or start local militias. Maybe if things against the militia aren´t so hot in the near future, more people will look at them with a different view. We can only hope.

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        • Cal 15 December, 2016, 22:46

          “liberal states are starting to reform gun control some, and there is a lawsuit against the feds that could potentially shatter all federal gun laws.”

          There is something you are ignoring here. Enforcement, and it is not the duty of the courts to enforce. Right now those that serve within the federal government are under a contract, made stronger lawfully by an Oath to NEVER infringe on the people’s right to own any weapon of any type, and as many of them as they can afford. Of course the people are under that contract to be available when needed by those that serve within state and federal government; to train with all those same weapons, plus others; and to be available when needed by the state and federal governments (and trained) to enforce the laws of the land – including the US Constitution (supreme law) and each state’s Constitution; and to be available and trained to be able to enforce all laws/regulations/treaties/codes/etc that are in Pursuance thereof the US Constitution, to be available and trained to be able to protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign; and to be available and trained to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

          The people are also to be educated in the US Constitution and their state Constitution so that they can understand their duties as the Militia, as jurors, as the Grand Jury, etc.

          But since every single person – elected, hired, contracted, etc – that serves within the federal and state governments are bound by that supreme contract, and that contract is the supreme LAW of this land, then they already have every single thing that can be used against them to stop lawfully and legally. But even those that believe in the US Constitution – with the appropriate “degrees, etc (meaning in law) since they ignore the people, must be CHARGED with their crimes so that this can be moved forward and prosecution can take place.

          Laws are not needed, we have them. New contracts are not needed, they already are under them and break them daily with no consequences. What is needed is MORE of the people to educate themselves on our legitimate government.

          What do I mean? Law enforcement – state and federal – does not recognize the supreme contract they are under, nor do they recognize it as the supreme LAW of this nation. They do everything daily that goes against it – that is called “police state” throughout history.

          What used to be the US Military and is now the UN military does not even understand or read the US Constitution that they also are bound under. They let traitors order them to do things on US soil, to go and attack foreign lands with no lawful declaration of war. (and NO, the President cannot send anyone off to war, neither can those in the Pentagon, etc; and most certainly no foreign entity or foreign nation cannot either – not lawfully).. etc.

          So the REAL problem is the American people. Those that should at the very least understand their Oath and the contract that they serve under do not. It is not the regular people, because it will not be the regular people (excluding those that are awake) that are the problem, because they can be retrained to be Americans. Why then do I view the law enforcement and military as the problem? They are armed with military arms and willingly “just follow orders” and “just do their jobs” to the point where our nation is dying. They have not understood that it IS their duty to just say “NO”!

          No to unlawful orders that go against the US Constitution and it matters not who the person is, or what position that person occupies. No to disarming the American people. No to using force against those protesting UNLESS the protestors are actually using force and destroying property. You have to not allow those who supposedly have your backs to not take you down with them when they murder, steal (read the US Constitution, all a persons property is protected from those that serve in government and is supposed to be protected by them meaning that civil forfeiture is a crimes of theft and worse).

          It is up to us what we do. If you decide that you like to own things, that you like to be able to make decisions for yourself concerning what you wear, eat, sleep, live then start taking a stand and LEARN the US Constitution and what your Oath means.

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    • Greg K 14 December, 2016, 10:27

      Unfortunately Patriot, they have a model to follow. They won’t come through the neighborhoods, door to door; they will come at night one house at a time in widely dispersed incidents. That way their confiscation efforts will look legitimized. After all, in our “See Something; say something” environment, just about everyone must be guilty of something, right?

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      • a young patriot 14 December, 2016, 22:05

        i see what you are saying, however i believe it will be even more subtle. I believe it will possibly be that a gun control act will be passed, and militias will draw the line there, which could lead to repeal, or bloodshed.

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      • WGP 16 December, 2016, 10:51

        That is true and add that we travel public roads which are another laden with cameras, etc. To gather weapons, all they need to do is pull people over that records show having purchased a weapon through NICS, arrest them, go to their home with a BS warrant, shoot the dog, terrorize the wife and kids, confiscate everything; especially those evil weapons. Use the IRS to lock up your bank accounts, prosecute you as a felon; and never going to trial. Oregon is a good example of the treachery they are capable of.

        Believe had Hister been elected (which could still happen or even worse), they will go right for the juggler starting with the 1st and 2nd amendment. Remember, those ABC agencies have all that ammo and mercenary mentality to use it.

        Those that are sincerely concerned probably have weapons stored in the ground along with cash, gold and silver. They have a stash of food supplies like the Mormon’s do. They live off grid on a large secluded property, miles from any public roads, growing their own vegies and poaching the Kings Sherwood Forest meat.

        The progressive agenda has their enemy list and everyone is one it , including their useful idiots.

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    • redneck ronnie 14 December, 2016, 17:26

      They did just that in New Orleans and not a shot was fired…

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  2. Cal 12 December, 2016, 20:25

    “… changes to the 2nd Amendment may be more effective from a counterterrorism standpoint…”

    Since no one who serves within our government, particularly one who serves in unlawful and forbidden agencies, is able to use any delegated in writing authority from any governmental position to do such a thing.

    Consider these words by Mao Tse-tung in1938, when he inadvertently endorsed the Second Amendment: “Every Communist must grasp the truth, ‘Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

    These words by Mao shows you (generic “you”) that Michael Hayden is at the very least a communist, and definitely needs to be charged and prosecuted for TREASON and *Terrorism because he is working to disarm the American people. That only assists *terrorism by those that serve within our government.

    To all military, NSA, law enforcement – government and state, those words sound like you will be soon be making a choice to either stand for your legitimate government or work as a traitor. If you choose the later in order to keep a paycheck and sell out your nation, your cheaply bought. But also remember that in their NWO, no one is allowed to own anything – what are YOU going to do when they come to remove you from everything you own? What will you do when/if they decide that you might be too big a danger to them after you discover you do not like the world they create and have you “removed” (and they ALWAYS do that throughout history)? Get a hint here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hW0X4bFIYo

    Preamble to the Bill of Rights – when you read this start to understand WHO these “forbiddens” and limitations are put on; and it is NOT the American people. it is a right RETAINED (kept) by the people.

    “Congress OF THE United States begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the Fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
    THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or ABUSE OF ITS POWERS, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution.” (caps are mine)

    “Hayden is more than a “former NSA Director.” He’s a retired four-star Air Force general and has also been Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, serving in various capacities in Democrat and Republican administrations.”

    David, you forgot to list a few other things that Hayden is such as Oath Breaker (felony and Perjury), Traitor – going against the US Constitution AGAIN – since we are required to have a Militia of the people, NOT a “standing military”, *Terrorist (governmental force will back up those unlawful (“color of law) edicts.

    ““We could probably do more things that’ll squeeze your privacy a bit,…”

    That also is unlawful, and tells you that this traitor, Hayden, to our nation has been one for decades.
    Hayden is a TRAITOR (feel free to enlarge those words) because I am NOT politically correct, and MY language is not controlled. When one lets them control a part of you, even your voice, it is not long with they control everything about you including if you live or die.

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    • Lynn 13 December, 2016, 21:02

      Excellent comment! Great analysis, and perfectly in-line with the Constitution and founders’ philosophies. Great job!

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    • WGP 16 December, 2016, 13:12

      These parasites are no different than an armed intruder into our home. We shall defend nation accordingly. No one needs to doubt that. No warning shot required.

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  3. Patriot Minuteman 12 December, 2016, 21:25

    If these so-called educated politicians would just realize that if they “embraced” and worked with, not against the so-called “domestic terrorists” like lll%, OATH KEEPERS, Mississippi Militia, Idaho militia, and other patriot groups that they would be much farther ahead in their fight against Islamic terrorism in America! WE are NOT the enemy! ” WE THE PEOPLE…” are the Patriot protectors of this country!

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    • ayoungpatriot 13 December, 2016, 08:22

      agreed, many patriot groups are looking to aid the government. They want to be recognized for what they are, MILITIA!

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  4. Spike 12 December, 2016, 22:38

    This is wrong in so many ways

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  5. Pragmatic_Thinker 13 December, 2016, 04:55

    Hayden is a consummate Washington insider and globalist who believes Central Banks, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, IMF/World Bank, intelligence agencies, and so on are just means to some global end. He cares very little for the Constitution or the right of Americans to live as a free people. Terrorism is simply the excuse for infringing on the Constitution to begin with much like any government created “dragon to slay” it serves its purpose in many ways. Hopefully there is no room for him in the future administration.

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  6. Bo 13 December, 2016, 08:22

    It outrages, but no longer astounds me that these elitist have abandoned their oath to the Constitution (or, more insidiously, “interpret” the Constitution to fit their desires). Why would any virtuous leader want to strip the citizenry of their God-given right of self-defense? People like Hayden have 24×7 PSDs … the rules only apply to the little people in their warped, pusillanimous world views. Shame on them and good luck disarming us “little people.”

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  7. darkart1 13 December, 2016, 08:37

    Sweden has strictest gun laws and terrorists still have them. Infringement of our rights is obviously not the answer.

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    • czman 14 December, 2016, 01:13

      Lets look a little closer to home. Chicago, also, has some of the strictest anti-gun laws in the US, yet they have one of, if not the highest, kill rates in America.

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  8. tomd 13 December, 2016, 08:41

    we,the patriots must always know where traitors and their families work,hang out and live.

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  9. EdWestT 13 December, 2016, 08:44

    Michael Hayden is an example of people who have spent so much time in the Washington Establishment they have lost sight of why they are there, which is to serve the people. He, clearly, has forgotten his oath of office and what the Constitution directs him to do. Like so many of his kind, he doesn’t understand, or doesn’t care, what “… shall not be infringed” means. It’s sad that such people are allowed to stay in Washington.

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  10. Badger 13 December, 2016, 09:12

    Brighter than a NEON sign these Marxist advertise exactly what their intent is. This subjugation by men under Oath defines gravitas, like Hillary’s confidence in her victory, these oath-breakers operate under the illusion of impunity…. with men like Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan is there any doubt why that illusion exists?

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  11. Rob 13 December, 2016, 09:21

    This guy is one of the main players of the globalist elite team and is a traitor to “We, the people…” He must be taken out as soon as possible. He thinks he’s immune and totally protected. He is NOT.

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  12. Old Bill 13 December, 2016, 09:41

    This is the third time I have written my comments, and Internet Explorer failed when the words communist and Clint@n F@undati@n C@ey are in the same sentence + DISGUSTING. NO JOKE

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  13. Green Giant 13 December, 2016, 09:55

    Hayden is an idiot. Open the door even a little and the game is for sure, OVER.
    He is dumb for thinking that ANYONE can stop a terrorist by denying them the tools of their attack. It simply does not happen as has been shown in England and Australia. No, any time ANY individual talks of “control” they are talking about denying us our rights. Not a single law STOPS criminal activity. It only punishes them IF you can catch them.
    Send this funky back to the retirement home. He is worthless.

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  14. Bisley 13 December, 2016, 10:17

    Our government is run by corrupt socialist morons, and they seek out people of the same sort to promote to high rank and appoint to all positions of real authority in the military. There have always been political generals and admirals, but now they are the rule, rather than the exception. Every government office, agency and court is packed with these people, and they are concerned only with enforcing their will on us, and indoctrinating us to accept it. For them there is no Constitution, unless they can twist pieces of it to justify their program.

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  15. real deal 13 December, 2016, 11:06

    Never surrender to the globalist agenda. I vow to keep my oath and will not succumb to any laws that that are a direct violation of the constitution.

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  16. suomynonayats 13 December, 2016, 13:08

    Sweet Jesus,…I read the first paragraph and that guy actually scares me.
    We have a LOT, of work to do.

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  17. Jeff 13 December, 2016, 19:08

    It was said that ” voting doesn’t matter”, well part of me says that’s true, but the ones which get the ” gun free zones”, “safe spaces”, etc, are there for every vote, for all simple reasons in their city, or town. Whether it be a new stop sign, cross walk, or even lessor, they vote, and just don’t vote on the major bills which impact something you are concerned with, like “anti gun laws”. I am surely guilty in this, and Trumps win, is a smack in my head, of how lucky we were. I was making fun if the liberal protesters arrested in Portland, Oregon, and then I had the “oh shit” thought of my passions about the constitution could be taken while I’m blinded by one item!

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    • Jeff 14 December, 2016, 09:13

      “If voting could change anything they wouldn’t let us do it”

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  18. Tim 13 December, 2016, 22:57

    How many years have we been disarming people in the Middle East? How is that working out for preventing terrorism,… or anything else?

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    • Jack Hinson 19 December, 2016, 15:21

      On that note, i remember seeing footage of American soldiers searching Iraqi civilian’s homes for weapons. I thought that that would simply leave the most vulnerable citizens defenseless, not to mention, give our young soldiers the wrong idea about the God-given right to keep and bear arms.

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  19. Jeanette 13 December, 2016, 23:04

    This really makes one wonder about gun-hating Obama’s real strategy in forcing upon us hundreds of thousands of Muslims, doesn’t it?

    Maybe the plan is for his imported buddies to kill another several hundred, or several thousand, Americans, so that he can see his great desire of a disarmed America realized.

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    • Patriot Mike 14 December, 2016, 02:26

      That’s a rather telling statement when you think about the fact he wouldn’t even Arm the Kurdish people in Iraq who desperately wanted to fight back against Isis.

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    • Cal 15 December, 2016, 22:48

      Gun control did not start with Obama.

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  20. flinter 14 December, 2016, 09:09

    Well…Im not one to pussy foot around so here is my take if anyone is interested. The guy is seeking to undermine the constitution yes? He has sworn an oath to the same yes? He is therefore committing a treasonous act yes? Give him a fair trial as provided by the constitution. Find him guilty if that is what the evidence proves. Take him out to the courthouse steps and hand him by the neck until dead in full public view.
    This will give us three things.
    1…Satisfaction that justice has been served.
    2…One less traitor in our midst.
    3…A deterant to others to follow in his footsteps.
    Try…convict…repeat. Sooner or later I think we will run out of traitors.

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    • Cal 14 December, 2016, 10:46

      Ah Flinter, you warm my heart.

      You said it correctly; charge with the crimes, jury trial of INFORMED jurors – remember we can call up a Grand Jury (our toll constitutionally), use a constitutional judge so that it is a fair trial – of which we have about 3 left (constitutional judges), etc. To keep allowing treason, *terrorism, First Degree Murder (assassination powers), Oath Breakers, etc, etc to keep going without a REAL constitutional trial without the unlawful “maritime” trial and their buddies.sitting would be awesome.

      Thanks for the early Christmas present. I am still smiling.

      God Bless and Stay Safe All!

      Cal
      If there were never intended to be action to defend the Constitution from those who are domestically attempting to destroy its power and authority, why would each Oath require it of those who take the Oaths?

      Chief Tecumseh: “When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.”

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      • flinter 15 December, 2016, 11:52

        Cal.. I see myself a s a very simple yet strait forward guy. I guess that’s why I embrace the constitution, its my kind of document. SIMPLE and STRAIT FORWARD. I do not see a need for others to debate its meaning. All one has to do is read the writings of our founding fathers and the rest is simple and strait forward. No hidden codes , no hidden meanings just good old fashioned Colonial American brilliance.
        Enjoy the smile..Merry Christmas.

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  21. James 16 December, 2016, 08:35

    It amazes me how willing our so called government is willing to cast aside our sacred Bill of Rights but are so worried about the rights of illegal immigrants who hold no allegiance to America and have committed every crime imaginable. Make no mistake these fake leaders have their NWO in mind and have shredded our Constitution and therefore are nothing more than traitors to me.

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  22. siglius 17 December, 2016, 23:35

    The Second Amendment is the only part of The Constitution that is its own enforcement clause. Gee. I wonder which constitutes a greater threat to our citizens; terrorism or an attempt to disarm us.

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  23. Sp4Nelson 24 December, 2016, 22:57

    I believe we have two fronts to fight now!

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  24. Randall 30 December, 2016, 15:28

    This guy is a Globalist…. They can not control us to the degree they want to if we have guns to protect ourselves with …. We have the means to fight back and win should this become a physical contact sport….

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  25. Linda 2 January, 2017, 07:27

    He is said to be the Principal of The Chertoff Group.

    Here’s his company fb page: https://www.facebook.com/TheChertoffGroup/

    It has their website as: http://www.chertoffgroup.com

    And, their email as: info@chertoffgroup.com

    And, Phone: (202) 552-5280

    Based on the quoted statement from him about the 4th and 2nd Amendment possible changes, he is a traitor in my perspective.

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  26. Diane D 17 January, 2017, 12:55

    Molon Labe! I dare you.

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