NavyJack – Communists Intend to Overthrow the United States before Inauguration Day (Updated 01/12/2017)

NavyJack – Communists Intend to Overthrow the United States before Inauguration Day (Updated 01/12/2017)

“Just because a group says that their goal is to keep Trump out of office, doesn’t mean their plan is plausible. Without the support of both the current President and the Senate, my personal opinion is that they are wasting their time.” – NavyJack

In previous articles I have reviewed the planned activities of the ANSWER Coalition, #DisruptJ20 and the ANTIFA during the week leading up to the inauguration of Donald Trump as the 45th President of the United States. In this article we will review a new and even more dangerous organization, Refuse Fascism, which has stated their intent to stop the inauguration and prevent Donald Trump from becoming President.


On the surface this stated goal may seem unclear, but when you review their action plan you find the following:

“It is true that the current widespread opposition to this fascist regime could end up becoming deeply disoriented, demoralized, and decimated through repression. But it is also true that the current angst and outrage could be transformed, in a very short, telescoped period of time, into resistance which reaches such massive proportions, and is characterized by such a depth of determination, that it actually creates a ‘crisis of rule,’ and prevents the Trump/Pence fascist regime from consolidating its hold on the governance of society.”


“And this must be done before this regime officially takes power, isolates and crushes opposition, and moves forcefully to implement its fascist program.  The aim must be nothing less than to create such a profound political crisis before the intended inauguration (January 20, 2017) that the fascist regime is actually not able to take the reins of government.”

This organization is clearly promoting treason against the people and the Constitution of United States of America. Our Operation HYPO team has penetrated this organization, attended their meetings and communicated with their leadership. Their intent is to create a crisis in Washington, D.C. before January 20, 2017. The crisis will manifest thru sustained protests starting on January 14, reaching a crescendo not later than January 19 with supporting “direct” actions including blocking roads, vandalism, and stopping Metro subway service starting on January 17. The following is an example of the scenario they envision:

“As 2011 dawned, President Hosni Mubarak had ruled Egypt for decades and seemed to be immovably implanted in power.  But Mubarak was forced to leave office and actually arrested after being confronted by massive demonstrations that braved very severe repression, focused in the main square in Cairo, along with opposition from all sectors of society manifesting in different ways.  From the time of the first demonstrations to the removal of Mubarak took less than a month.”

Refuse Fascism is promoting riots as a method to achieve their stated goals, suggesting the need for much larger events than the massively destructive and deadly riots that occurred in Ferguson, MO and Baltimore, MD.

“These protests could be something with the character of the protests against police murder over the past few years… but larger by several orders of magnitude and even more determined.  Such protests would have to have the effect of figuratively ‘stopping society in its tracks’…”

Clearly this organization has crossed the line and its leadership should be arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit treason, conspiracy to incite violence and other charges as appropriate. If the Obama Justice Department and the FBI does not immediately move to halt their schemes, we will know that they are complicit. One of the demands of this organization will be to stop the inauguration of Donald Trump as the 45th President of the United States and hold new elections.  We also know that in the past week, the DHS has made the unprecedented move to inject Federal oversight of the election systems. While these items could be a coincidence, it is certainly suspicious timing with President Obama having less than 10 days remaining in office.

The key element of the Refuse Fascism argument for new elections is the CIA sponsored propaganda related to Russian interference in the U.S. Presidential Election. This “fake news” appears to be integrally connected with their overthrow plot and could indicate some level of cooperation. The level of deception contained in the most recent two reports alleging Russian interference in the election is quite remarkable. I suggest the following article from ZeroHedge is a responsible overview of the issues.

The Refuse Fascism leadership is the “who’s who” of Communist and Islamic Revolutionaries, including:

They have also received significant support and endorsement from members of the media and entertainment industry, including:

  • Marc Lamont Hill, CNN
  • Ed Asner, actor
  • Rosie O’Donnell, comedian, actor
  • Margaret Cho, comedian, actor

The organization is “a project of Alliance for Global Justice”. The Alliance for Global Justice was founded in February 1979 when solidarity activists formed the Nicaragua Network.

“The Nicaragua Network was the leading Nicaragua solidarity organization in the 1980s after the triumph of the Sandinista Revolution over the US-backed Somoza dictatorship. Tens of thousands of current and former activists throughout the progressive movement cut their activist teeth on coffee or cotton picking brigades to Nicaragua or by building schools, health clinics and houses in Nicaragua and witnessing directly the consequences of US imperialism, but also the courage of ordinary people who were fighting back.”


“Sandinistas always told the Nicaragua Network, “What you can do to most help us is to change your own government.”  We took that instruction to heart in 1990 when the Sandinistas lost an election due to overwhelming US interference and funding as well as the Nicaraguan peoples’ exhaustion from nine years of the US-sponsored Contra terrorist war.”

The Alliance for Global Justice receives funding from a number of left-wing philanthropies, including George Soros‘s Open Society Institute and the Tides Foundation.

All information that our Operation Hypo team has collected, including video, audio, planning documents and personnel rosters will be delivered to the DC Metropolitan Police Department and other authorities as appropriate.

Comments and Opinion from NavyJack:

I get in a lot of hot water with Yoda, Cal, Chip and others here if I speculate or provide my opinion in an article, so as a general rule I refrain from offering my opinion. This time, I am going to break that rule. Please consider the following as my opinion.  Because of the dedication of the Oath Keepers involved in Operation HYPO, we are currently experts on the issue of protest organizations planning to stop or screw-up the Presidential Inauguration. Because of OPSEC you can either choose to believe me or not. If you have any doubts that I am being truthful, ask Stewart for his opinion.

What I believe will happen is a series of increasingly agitated protests starting this Saturday January 14. As new protesters are bused into town, the level and number of issues will escalate. These protests could easily result in riots. The DC Police will be stretched. None of the violence will be all that serious. A few assaults, small fires, broken windows, vehicles destroyed, traffic jams because of road closures, disruption of Metro subway service, etc. The DC residence of VP-Elect Mike Pence will be protested on the afternoon/evening of the 18th. There will be vandalism.

On the evening of the 19th things will escalate significantly. Guests attending the Citizens for Trump “DeploraBall” at the National Press Club will be assaulted just like we saw on TV in Albuquerque and San Jose during the run-up to the election.  I will be there as a concerned citizen with other Patriots doing whatever I can to help the police protect innocent civilians. I just cannot sit and watch another Albuquerque or San Jose attack on innocent women and children. I can’t do it.  Once this violence ends, they will either have the number of protesters needed to start making demands or not. I believe they will fall short. I believe they will still make demands, but they will not have the weight of enough protesters to justify any action other than containment.  Because of the increased level of violence, by the evening of the 19th, the DC National Guard will be on the street. SpecOps personnel from Ft. McNair will be on the street. FBI HRT and other sniper teams will be on every rooftop.  I believe the protesters will be largely contained to McPherson Square Park and the White House Ellipse. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Inauguration Day will be marred with hundreds of “Direct Action” events. Key roads and bridges into the city will be blocked at least temporarily. The DC Police have decided to just “wait and see” instead of being proactive and arresting those plotting these direct actions.  The security entrances into the inauguration viewing areas will be blocked with protesters chained together and chained to the entry portal fences. Protesters will attempt to block the Inauguration Parade following the Inauguration Ceremony at 13th Street. USMC personnel will most likely have to clear them out if they succeed. There are literally hundreds of these actions planned by dozens of organizations. Training for these actions will be taking place at various locations including American University starting on Saturday. It could all be stopped, but it won’t be stopped. You already know why it won’t be stopped. It will be a long day for all of us there.

Donald Trump will become our 45th President, but the stain caused by the protests will be permanent. On the evening on the inauguration, three of the major inauguration balls will be disrupted; two in DC and one in Virginia. Authorities and organizers have been informed. Protests will continue until at least January 23.


About Author

Navy Jack

During my service I deployed on various platforms, including submarines, amphibious assault units and special boats. I participated in expeditionary and humanitarian missions to the North Atlantic, Iran, Beirut, Libya, and the Caribbean. I am a Patron Life Member of the NRA. I am an Oath Keeper Life Member.


  1. Sherry 11 January, 2017, 14:00

    Navy Jack…….
    What can we Patriots do?????

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    • Navy Jack Author 11 January, 2017, 14:27

      Sherry – Just because they have stated their intent to do this does not mean that they will muster the support needed to create a crisis of sufficient magnitude to be successful. I believe that the DC National Guard, the DC Police and other law enforcement agencies will be a significant impediment to their success. I am also confident that Stewart will provide additional guidance soon. Have faith and be prepared to come to the aid of your Country if needed!

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      • Scottishwarrior 11 January, 2017, 15:03

        had the same question as a new member. From what I have seen in this country, I think they would be in for a very big surprise. I have another question — for over a year I watched spraying over Arizona whose trails were explained to me as “contrails” — Having spent 4 yrs in the USAF as a Weather Observer, I called that BS. Do we know who was spraying what?

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      • BrinsopDragon 11 January, 2017, 20:08

        Also remember Bikers for Trump will be there approx. 2 million strong. Not to mention literaly millions of vets and current enlistees. Could a riot happen YES it could. Will Loyal Americans and Patriots help put it down O YEA>

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        • SGT RJ USMC 11 January, 2017, 23:13

          The fools get so wrapped up in themselves, they feel like their agenda is surging, but they keep forgetting “We The People” are the “Silent Majority… ie; behind every blade of grass!”

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          • SIlverBack 12 January, 2017, 08:33


          • Stewart Rhodes 12 January, 2017, 16:49

            Amen to that. They live in their own little echo chambers, and believe their own bull.

      • 11 January, 2017, 23:36

        Sure looks to me like CIA , FBI and others are well vested in this operation. I expect full cooperation is already in practice. They have proven to be untrustworthy and politicized

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      • Old Man 12 January, 2017, 07:04

        maybe we should open the roads they block with what ever force necessary . It is against the law to block roads so it shouldn’t be against the law to open them .

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    • Nevada Dave 11 January, 2017, 17:23

      Keep your powder dry. These nefarious, illegitimate, scum of the earth, globalist, commie-pinko, anti-American, evil people will allow the deviled himself to manifest in them as they spew the lie that they have all the answers to humanity’s problems. They are anarchists in communist skin.

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      • Ed 12 January, 2017, 05:05

        The welfare state shows me that there are a lot of politicians and their supporters in communist skin. Leave anarchists out of it.
        Anarchists did not try to carry out genocide against the Armenians in Turkey; they did not deliberately starve millions of Ukrainians; they did not create a system of death camps to kill Jews, gypsies, and Slavs in Europe; they did not fire-bomb scores of large German and Japanese cities and drop nuclear bombs on two of them; they did not carry out a Great Leap Forward that killed scores of millions of Chinese; they did not attempt to kill everybody with any appreciable education in Cambodia; they did not launch one aggressive war after another; they did not implement trade sanctions that killed perhaps 500,000 Iraqi children. In debates between anarchists and statists, the burden of proof clearly should rest on those who place their trust in the state. Anarchy’s mayhem is wholly conjectural; the state’s mayhem is undeniably, factually horrendous. ~Robert Higgs

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        • Researcger 12 January, 2017, 15:59

          Anarchists are VERY MUCH involved here! Do not kid yourself! They plan on shutting down security checkpoints (to let who or what through?). The Base gives several martial arts training classes every week, has been for some time. Check out and read all their blabla, especially on the Event pages. Anarchists are VERY MUCH PART OF THIS! Along with commies, socialists, BLM, revcom and others. Check out The Base ( and Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council (MACC) ( Read their entire websites, especially the Events sections, all the blabla on the events. Check out any other links you find on their sites. ALL the revolutionaries are coming together to destroy the Inauguration if they can.

          Also check out h(ttps:// and (

          Whenever you see that capital A in a circle, you know it’s anarchists. You will see that in graffiti and elsewhere.

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  2. BOB 11 January, 2017, 17:17

    We must ‘Lay Low’ gather local intelligence, assess and stay safe preparing for ‘Organized’ response. Take NO overt action until we are positive who we are Targeting and assured the result is supportive of our Constitutional Goals.

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  3. Bronson 11 January, 2017, 17:47

    Why is this Communist in this video not arrested. He is advocating the overthrow of America’s election which is treason. He admits he is a Communist. Deport him if your not going to arrest him.

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  4. WILLIAM 11 January, 2017, 18:02


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    • SGT RJ USMC 11 January, 2017, 23:24

      The fools get so wrapped up in themselves, they feel like their agenda is surging, but they keep forgetting “We The People” are the “Silent Majority… ie; behind every blade of grass!”

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  5. WILLIAM 11 January, 2017, 18:05


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  6. VZ58 sniper 11 January, 2017, 18:20

    Has the biker groups been contacted like at the trump rallys and RNC convention .I think they would come and protect Trump .

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    • Navy Jack Author 12 January, 2017, 10:18

      VZ58 sniper – Yes. Bikers for Trump leadership has been very proactive and is informed.

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  7. Hagar 11 January, 2017, 18:34

    American men did nothing when laws were put in place to destroy the education system. American men have done nothing to stop illegals and muslims from living at their expense. American men watch ball games as the muslims train in Jihad training camps, like in York County , South Carolina. Do you really expect American men to act to stop the destruction of this nation???

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    • Cal 11 January, 2017, 19:36

      Yes, the AMERICAN people will, not all of them, that has never happened in any nation, but enough.

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    • Toolitletoolate 11 January, 2017, 21:17

      Yes Hagar, I must concede to your train of thought. I am a 30 yr. retired LEO and former Military, 18 yrs. I see no resistance on the part of American Males at this point in time. If lip service were a weapon, we would be safe. God bless America, it was a great Country .

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    • Norton II 11 January, 2017, 21:48

      Well Hagar, the waking up process is well underway, an as a Bundy ranch vet, Sugar Pine Mine vet and as one of the Malhure occupiers, I can take some credit for ringin the bell. We do ACT ! and our actions have electrified thousands. Our spirit and camaraderie is infectious…..catch the virus…

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    • Dschroen7 12 January, 2017, 07:07

      Law abiding American citizens who care about their freedoms and individual rights are blackmailed daily with threats to remove their freedoms and individual rights if they make a stand or fight back against the narrative. Americans will react when an event occurs that “Trumps” the threats of blackmail. As a member of the “American men”, I do not hasten the day the 2nd amendment is my go to response to opposition. I use the 1st amendment within the rules of a proper civil society and so did all the “American men” who voted for Trump. Who has stated he will crack down on the illegals and muslim extremist, we will see if he holds true. There are “American men” who have volunteered to monitor the US boarder to halt the illegals crossing.

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    • Stewart Rhodes 12 January, 2017, 16:56

      Actually, plenty of us have been taking action, but not all, and that is a fact. But don’t lump all patriots in with the couch potatoes. For example, many of us have been down on the border doing our best, and also stood at Bundy Ranch, Ferguson, etc.

      In this instance, we are ready to go if we see the need, but we feel this is a commie hail Mary pass of last desperation that will fail. But we are watching closely and if that assessment changes, we will act.

      For those of you who are already planning on going, be prepared in case things turn ugly, and keep your head on a swivel. And if you have a good friend who wants to go, by all means take them with you and double your numbers. Those of you who were not planning on being there, keep your powder dry and stock up on your food storage, fuel, batteries for radios, etc, just in case. Get your gear sorted out, which is always a good thing to do anyway.

      We think this will fizzle and go nowhere, but if the idiots in the globalist establishment actually try to block Trump from being sworn in, they will spark a fight in this nation like nothing seen in our history.

      For the Republic!


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    • WGP 15 January, 2017, 17:04

      Each of us as individuals has a unique threshold for any given adverse situation. Some will be obedient to tyranny rising, while others are always the first to stand in the face of evil from day one. Somewhere between many will follow the leaders, just as history shows us.

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  8. Dave Laibow 11 January, 2017, 19:37

    Those who are talking about rioting in Washington leading up to or on Inaugruration Day are confusing reality with symbolism. It’s nice to have a public event on the steps of the Capitol, but the oath-taking is just as valid if it’s held in the Capitol rotunda , at the White House, or at Camp David — or in an Army APC (armored personnel carrier, once the President-Elect and Chief Justice Roberets climb inside. People mouthing off about shutting down the Inauguration are forgetting about the DC Police and the Military District of Washington.
    If people who hold these views don’t make these comments, they are effectively invisible, so they have to make them. They’re suffering from a serious disconnect from reality. Too bad for them.

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    • Cal 12 January, 2017, 07:20

      What it says regarding the taking of the Oath in Article 1 is: “Before he enter on the execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

      “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) tha I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

      There is no requirement of any judge, etc to be there. Dr. Vieira could do the Oath-taking “ceremony”. Stewart, Judge A. Napolitano, etc. Basically anyone that a high percentage of the awakened American people trust could be there for the Oath-taking to verify it is done properly.

      Anyone remember Obama’s “oath-taking” ceremony (first time)? He screwed up the words when “repeating”. Supposedly it was redone later. I believe that this was done deliberately since he knew that he did NOT meet the presidential requirements and was trying to protect himself in case this “operation” went bad by not having actually sworn the Oath (and I sent OK the copies of the newspapers, one of Obama and Duckworth – not sure that is her name – were discussing that neither qualified to be a US President because both parents were required to be US citizens, but they could be in the senate, etc long ago).

      Bet he, and his handlers, were totally shocked that he not only made it in, but was in for 2 occasions, and that those of us who KNEW he was not a US President could not get anything done to stop it. What is worse, is look how many died in military ventures that are unlawful by this piece of (fill in the blank) and those treasonous scum at the top of the military who just wanted power, prestige, etc. Like them or not, they are WILLING traitors to our nation.

      Like a salesman, if they cannot get you to like them, they cannot sell you on their validity (product).

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  9. Average Joe 11 January, 2017, 19:40

    Obese america does not have the motivation or insulin supply.

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    • Bill 11 January, 2017, 22:48

      Don’t be so sure, Joey boy!!! Ever carried an M16 for a living?

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    • donna 12 January, 2017, 15:04

      joey my son, Americans, men and women will fight to the death to protect our children and the future of this country.

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  10. Donald York 11 January, 2017, 21:50

    I say no to Communism! How do you like that Soros?

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  11. True Patriot 11 January, 2017, 22:41

    Oh my goodness Lou Grant and Rosie O’Donnel are taking over America! Can I send money to stop this! What can I do!?!

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  12. PatriotJJ 11 January, 2017, 22:47

    It all sounds scary and powerful, BUT, we are dealing with Liberals, the Wimps of Society. They are effective at whining and crying and bullying, suing those who dare to oppose them, and demanding “Special Treatment” from the public teat of government. The wealthy ones are living in a bubble and have no clue as to how to survive in the real world. ALL of them rarely do anything for themselves, but rely on others to do everything FOR them. WE Patriots on the other hand, are the people who DO the work in the real world and WE are the people who have the preparedness and are proficient in self-defense. We also have the BALLS that the Left does not have when it comes to actual battle. I’m not very worried about a nationwide uprising from the Left.

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    • Cal 12 January, 2017, 07:28

      You’re all forgetting mercenaries, guns for hire. If you think Soro’s won’t hire from the same corporations that our US and the UN use, you are deluding yourselves. Or that the military that are not awakened will fight on command here as well as in foreign nations. Or that the LE’s that are corrupt or dumbed down will not fight at orders. Or those that have been armed and trained (unlawfully) in the different ‘agencies’ will not follow orders to fire on Americans, etc.

      You’re confusing the college students, etc who are being used to be fodder, a human wall for the trained – or at least that is my take.

      The best way to lose the American people is to kill their children. That is what I see going to happen here if this is not just a DEFENSIVE operation. My opinion for what it is worth.

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    • Navy Jack Author 12 January, 2017, 10:22

      PatriotJJ – It is a mistake to believe that those that oppose us are not armed and prepared. Their militant groups are itching for a fight with Patriots.

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  13. Nodummyrat 11 January, 2017, 23:28

    The left is made up of mostly pussies that would never fight for their country. We the people have the military, the police, the gun owners and massive veterans. Let em come. It has been brewing since the treasonous Clinton was in the white house and it is time to take the country back.

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    • Janelle 12 January, 2017, 01:32

      I believe the Muslims will take advantage of this and join in with the left

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  14. Mindy 12 January, 2017, 00:23

    America is fed up these nazi traitors and they aren’t going to tolerate much more of their violence, treason , riots, murders and oppression. I am convinced that they have been supported , financially and ideologically by obama , hillary and the rest of the lib cartel. These creatures are unhinged and if they don’t cease and desist, they are going to find out the hard way, America will not tolerate them. There are things in this world that should never be tolerated and it’s not patriots and Christians.

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  15. Unknown Ranger 12 January, 2017, 04:49

    That , self-amitted Communist ; Doesn’t , seem , that his preaching , too his Steeple , has been working-out , so well ; His request , of participation hasn’t , been realized , what , so-ever , so-far nobody , seems too be doing anything , that he’s requested , that , they do , everything , is quiet . I’m more concerned , about the ” Weather underground ” and Bill Ayre’s , they have proven in the past , of their capabilities too organize and are probably , being funded by George Sorors’ ; And the CIA , is another problem , that should be very-concerning , because President-Elect-Donald Trump , is promising to investigate , this intelligence-agency , that , they have a nefarious’ history concerning President’s , in the past , like the assassination , of President John F. Kennedy and attempted the assassination , of President Ronald Reagan , it looks like , there’s going too be a strong presence , of Law – Enforcement in Washington DC and other Patriotic organization’s , that these Snow-flake’s better step-back and understand , that this , is not a game and there could be , some real consequence’s ,if they, want to get ” Froggy ” and another thing to think-about , is the cold-weather in Washington DC , instead , of rioting , they maybe to busy trying too stay warm !!!

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  16. Yoda 12 January, 2017, 06:39

    Navy Jack, I really hate to be a pain in the butt and I certainly do not want to be considered as one taking the side of the communists. I’m just asking for clarification and I hope to get the answers before the SHTF with this planned event. Is there any way that you can show prosecutable evidence of of intent to overthrow the government. I am talking about written or verbal evidence and, of course, it has to be very specific. The next question concerns the possibility of US military firing on US citizens. I bring this up because there is a possibility that the globalists are planning to use this against America. They are already labeling the Trump administration as a fascist regime. I have seen situations like this take place in other nations and, whenever the government took the bait, civil war followed in almost every case.

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    • Navy Jack Author 12 January, 2017, 10:26

      Yoda – I am not sure what else to call it. In their literature and statements referenced above they clearly state their goal is to not allow Trump to ascend to office. If you have a better way to phrase it, please let me know.

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      • Yoda 12 January, 2017, 12:21

        Thanks for responding. My question was “Are the statements and stated goals from their literature enough to successfully prosecute them for treason?”. The second question about US troops firing on US citizens has not been addressed by you or Stewart and I would like clarification from the head shed. As Cal so artfully stated above, “The best way to lose the American people is to kill their children”. That is an awesome quote in my view.

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        • Navy Jack Author 12 January, 2017, 12:58

          Yoda – OK, I see where you are going with this. I do not have the answer. Stewart will need to weigh in on this.

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    • Stewart Rhodes 12 January, 2017, 17:04

      Here you go. Especially see the parts I highlighted in bold:

      How could Trump-Pence actually be prevented from ruling?

      By the intersection of two things: first, massive protest and resistance from tens of millions of ordinary people, daring and determined to actually prevent this fascist regime from taking over and implementing its program, beginning more or less immediately and growing to a crescendo in the next few weeks, and through that creating “a crisis of rule”; and second, coupled with this, attempts by different factions in the established power structure which have real differences with Trump-Pence to solve the crisis by preventing them from taking the reins of power.

      These protests could be something with the character of the protests against police murder over the past few years, or the Occupy protests before that—but larger by several orders of magnitude and even more determined. Such protests would have to have the effect of figuratively “stopping society in its tracks” and would raise real questions as to whether people very broadly would recognize the legitimacy of such a regime to even rule in basic ways and enforce its edicts.

      The “not normal” character of Trump-Pence—the radical changes they embody in how people are to be ruled in this country (in short, the fascist ethos and measures they campaigned on) and in regard to U.S. international policy—have not only created tremendous anguish and anger among many millions of ordinary people, but among ruling factions which have up to now nevertheless chosen to go along with this. But should there be a political eruption “from below,” their concerns over Trump would combine with immediate questions as to whether their basic stability and perhaps even the entire system would be endangered by continuing to stick with Trump-Pence.
      As that dynamic developed, scandals that up to now have been covered up could erupt, or be treated in a different way so as to raise fundamental constitutional issues, and ways would be found to prevent the coming to power of Trump-Pence.

      Has anything like that ever really happened?

      Yes, it has. In the early 1970s, in the U.S., Spiro Agnew, the vice-president, and then Richard Nixon, the president, were both forced to resign. The Nixon-Agnew regime, though having fairly decisively won the 1972 election, had alienated tens of millions from the very system itself and had also undertaken highly repressive, extraordinary and unconstitutional measures to settle conflicts within the ruling circles. Nixon was forced out, and Gerald Ford—who had not been elected as either president or vice-president —ascended to power.

      There are more recent examples as well, from other countries. As 2011 dawned, President Hosni Mubarak had ruled Egypt for decades and seemed to be immovably implanted in power. But Mubarak was forced to leave office and actually arrested after being confronted by massive demonstrations that braved very severe repression, focused in the main square in Cairo, along with opposition from all sectors of society manifesting in different ways. From the time of the first demonstrations to the removal of Mubarak took less than a month. There is also the current situation in South Korea in which massive demonstrations against the legally elected president have resulted in her impeachment and suspension from office in a period of a few months. There are in fact more than a few examples from the past several decades in which mass demonstrations from below have created or exacerbated splits and divisions among ruling elites and led to constitutionally extraordinary changes in government. In the cases cited here, each of the presidents removed had actually received not only majorities of the popular vote but, in the case of Nixon for instance, a true “landslide” victory.

      As all this emerges and then comes to a head, we would expect that even further scandals around Trump would surface from various sources, that different sections of the population with different concerns would get drawn into this, and that the social will to stop Trump-Pence from ruling would emerge and the political/legal means to accomplish that would be found.
      should we hold back now it will almost certainly become immeasurably more difficult to fight back once Trump-Pence are in power and using the vast state power at their disposal to implement their program. The path of holding back, of waiting and seeing, of calculating odds is littered with corpses. Far better to fight as hard as we can now, however difficult the circumstances, fostering an ethos and framework of resistance as we go for victory and going all out in a telescoped period of time for what is indeed our best shot.

      There are, of course, no guarantees of victory for people who have right on their side. The only guarantee that has ever existed is that if you don’t fight for justice you will certainly not get it.
      Let us fight.

      That looks pretty damn clear to me. I don’t think it will work, but it is conspiracy to commit treason in my estimation.

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      • Yoda 12 January, 2017, 18:37

        When I was an active duty counterintelligence agent, one of our responsibilities was to investigate treasonous activity. At the conclusion of the investigation, we would turn over our findings to legal to determine if there was sufficient evidence to arrest and prosecute. That was my question. Simple as that. You, being a lawyer, are considered the one to approach for consultation on legal matters. We now have that with the last sentence of your response. Thanks.

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  17. Dschroen7 12 January, 2017, 07:08

    Law abiding American citizens who care about their freedoms and individual rights are blackmailed daily with threats to remove their freedoms and individual rights if they make a stand or fight back against the narrative. Americans will react when an event occurs that “Trumps” the threats of blackmail. As a member of the “American men”, I do not hasten the day the 2nd amendment is my go to response to opposition. I use the 1st amendment within the rules of a proper civil society and so did all the “American men” who voted for Trump. Who has stated he will crack down on the illegals and muslim extremist, we will see if he holds true. There are “American men” who have volunteered to monitor the US boarder to halt the illegals crossing.

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  18. Jon Galen 12 January, 2017, 08:18

    Well, I don’t want to do anything to get me taken off the front line before the shtf…so I’m holding back till the shooting starts. Rest assured, when it does start, we…patriots…will come out of the woodwork. I don’t expect anything to come of these communist’s rhetoric…but just incase they do grow a pair…I’m staying locked and loaded. Maybe the mayor of DC will not act like a pussy and tell the cops to stand down…but if he does…that’s when the shooting should start…Just sayin!

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  19. Shadowfaxhound 12 January, 2017, 09:20

    WE, as Patriots and American citizens, should ALL be ready to do our part should the traitors (the leftists who are ruled by uninformed, ignorant braying jackasses) try to stop the inauguration of the newly elected POTUS. BIG money and outside interests are behind the scheduled riots and the attempt to bypass OUR Constitution. This, in my opinion, is treason and the instigators of this treason should be treated as traitors. STOP THE TRAITORS NOW!!! Put an end to the POISON that is killing OUR country.

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  20. Brian 12 January, 2017, 15:01

    January 11, 2017 “Their ability to falsify is unlimited”: Douglas Valentine provides background for understanding “USIC v Trump”

    What’s with the USIC vs. Trump infowar? One way to look at it: The United States Intelligence community on the one hand, and Trump, Inc. on the other, are two feuding organized crime families.

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