Breaking News: John McCain’s 1969 “Tokyo Rose” Propaganda Recording Released Showing he WAS a Traitor who Turned Against His Own Country

Breaking News: John McCain’s 1969 “Tokyo Rose” Propaganda Recording Released Showing he WAS a Traitor who Turned Against His Own Country

The “Songbird” Traitor, Doing His Fake Hero Act, Begins His Rise to Power

An audio recording has surfaced proving that U.S. Senator John McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese by recording a “Tokyo Rose”-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North Vietnamese radio in 1969.

For many years, American former P.O.W.s who were in the “Hanoi Hilton” North Vietnamese prison with John McCain called him a “Songbird” who collaborated with the enemy against his own country. They accused him of turning against them and against his own country in exchange for preferential treatment while many of the actually brave and honorable American P.O.W.s endured torture and denial of medical care and food for refusing to collaborate. The P.O.W.s branded McCain a traitor who was no hero, but nonetheless used his fake hero status to rise to political power.

But we only had their word against his – until now. Now, from the U.S. National Archives comes the proof of their allegations; McCain, by his own words, WAS in fact a traitor who collaborated with the enemy by recording a “Tokyo Rose” statement condemning his own nation by admitting “crimes” against the North Vietnamese people, stating “I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people.” McCain’s recorded statement also painted a picture of humane treatment of prisoners even though he knew many of his fellow Americans were being tortured and denied medical care and adequate food. In the recording he is heard to say “I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.”

Watch this, and listen to the recording yourself:

John McCain, Traitor and Songbird, sings for his masters

Las year, I (Stewart Rhodes) was attacked by the left wing media for calling McCain a traitor who deserved to be tried for treason (for his support for the use of military detention and military tribunals for Americans, rather than a jury trial as required by our Constitution), and then, once convicted, deserved to suffer the usual punishment for someone convicted of treason, which is to be hung by the neck until dead. Turns out I was right.  He IS a traitor, and now there is direct evidence to back that up, in addition to his horrid voting record against the Constitution. Well, now, can we finally try him for treason and then sentence him accordingly? Or will he, like Hillary Clinton, get a pass on his crimes despite direct, smoking gun evidence, because both of them are part of the political elite? You already know the answer to that.

Truenews.com is to be commended for their work in making this recording public, after all these years. Here is what they have to say about this:

(TRUNEWS) U.S. Senator John McCain recorded a Tokyo Rose-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North Vietnamese radio in 1969.

TRUNEWS acquired the audio recording in cooperation with WeSearchR.com, a new media company founded by Charles Johnson.

The 1969 North Vietnamese radio broadcast has never been heard in the United States of America. In fact, there has never been any knowledge that such a recording existed. The audio recording was found in a misplaced file in the National Archives in Washington, D.C. The broadcast was recorded by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a branch of the CIA that monitored international shortwave and foreign radio broadcasts.

Lt. Commander John McCain was shot down over Hanoi by a North Vietnamese missile while flying his 23rd bombing mission. Both of his arms and one leg were broken. He was pulled ashore by North Vietnamese who took him to a prison known by POWs as the “Hanoi Hilton.”

McCain was a prisoner of war for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973, and returned to the United States of America as a war hero. His POW legacy propelled McCain to victory in a race for a U.S. Congressional seat in Arizona in 1982. He replaced Barry Goldwater in the Senate in 1986.

– See more at: http://www.trunews.com/article/john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released#sthash.JAKZReP3.HpuKMBBb.dpuf

Read more here.

Here is a transcript of the recording:

To the Vietnamese people and the government of the DRVN:

From John Sidney McCain, 624787, Lieutenant Commander, U.S. Navy, born 29 August, 1936, Panama, home state Oregon. Shot down 26 October, 1967, A-4E aircraft.

I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people. I bombed their cities, towns and villages and caused many injuries, even deaths, for the people of Vietnam.

I was captured in the capital city of Hanoi, while attacking it. After I was captured, I was taken to the hospital in Hanoi, where I received very good medical treatment. I was given an operation on my leg, which allowed me to walk again, and a cast on my right arm, which was badly broken in three places.

The doctors were very good and they knew a great deal about the practice of medicine. I remained in the hospital for some time and regained much of my health and strength. Since I arrived in the camp of detention, I received humane and lenient treatment.

I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.

– See more at: http://www.trunews.com/article/john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released#sthash.JAKZReP3.HpuKMBBb.dpuf

Note that Trunews.com reports that “the broadcast was recorded by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a branch of the CIA that monitored international shortwave and foreign radio broadcasts.” So, the CIA, our supposed Central Intelligence Agency, knew that he was a traitor. Did they report that bit of intelligence to President Nixon? Did they inform the Joint Chief of Staff? Did they even notify McCain’s command? Again, you already know the answer to that. What they did is sit on it, and no doubt they “misfiled” it in the National Archives, and let McCain know they had it there, somewhere, and that they could have the “misfiling” corrected anytime they wanted, so he would be compliant and do as commanded throughout his career.  That is how it is done.   They had McCain under their control, as a “Manchurian Candidate” from that moment on, which is why it was kept an internal CIA secret all those years, till now.

I have to wonder if the CIA didn’t just now determine to throw McCain to the wolves for some reason.  I’d be curious to know how Truenews.com and friends found the recording.  Were they given an “anonymous tip?” Regardless, McCain’s goose is now good and cooked. If he had a shred of honor he would resign, but no doubt he will try to find a way to worm out of this. But I don’t think it will work. Not this time. And those who recently sided with him against Trump, such as Newt Gingrich, are now on the side of a confirmed Traitor. Again, perfect timing for an implosion of the corrupt GOP Old Guard. Interesting. You can bet Trump will use this to full effect.

– Stewart Rhodes

 

UPDATE AND ADDENDUM:

Since I am getting comments condemning me for calling McCain a traitor for collaborating with the enemy by recording that propaganda broadcast for the North Vietnamese, here is my response:

First, here is what the Code of Conduct says about this (I have highlighted in bold the most pertinent sections):

Code of Conduct for Members of the United States Armed Forces[3][4][5]

I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause
VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

It really goes without saying that this recording shows that McCain violated that Code of Conduct. Doing so was not excusable because of the “duress” he was under. In fact, the same folks who dug this recording up also say they have his own statements to show he was not under duress: http://gotnews.com/breaking-senjohnmccain-not-duress-north-vietnam-blabbed-military-info-voiced-communist-propaganda/

Even if he were actually under duress, that would not absolve him of his duty to “make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.” Nor does it absolve him of his duty to “accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy which is exactly what the other POWs accused McCain of doing.

Medal of Honor recipient James Stockdale, in contrast to McCain, was actually brutally tortured and still refused to collaborate with the enemy. Let’s compare and contrast his actions to that of McCain:

Stockdale was held as a prisoner of war in the Hoa Lo prison (the infamous “Hanoi Hilton”) for the next seven and a half years. As the senior Naval officer, he was one of the primary organizers of prisoner resistance. Tortured routinely and denied medical attention for the severely damaged leg he suffered during capture, Stockdale created and enforced a code of conduct for all prisoners which governed torture, secret communications, and behavior. In the summer of 1969, he was locked in leg irons in a bath stall and routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, he beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. When Stockdale was discovered with information that could implicate his friends’ “black activities,” he slit his wrists so they could not torture him into confession.

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Stockdale was one of eleven prisoners known as the “Alcatraz Gang“: George Thomas Coker; George McKnight; Jeremiah Denton; Harry Jenkins; Sam Johnson; James Mulligan; Howard Rutledge; Robert Shumaker; Ronald Storz; and Nels Tanner. These individuals had been leaders of resistance activities while in captivity and thus were separated from other captives and placed in solitary confinement. “Alcatraz” was a special facility in a courtyard behind the North Vietnamese Ministry of National Defense, located about one mile away from Hoa Lo Prison. In Alcatraz, each of the prisoners was kept in an individual windowless and concrete cell measuring 3 by 9 feet (0.9 by 2.7 m) with a light bulb kept on around the clock, and they were locked in leg irons each night.[9][10][11][12][13] Of the eleven, Storz died in captivity there in 1970.

In a business book by James C. Collins called Good to Great, Collins writes about a conversation he had with Stockdale regarding his coping strategy during his period in the Vietnamese POW camp.[14]

I never lost faith in the end of the story, I never doubted not only that I would get out, but also that I would prevail in the end and turn the experience into the defining event of my life, which, in retrospect, I would not trade.[15]

When Collins asked who didn’t make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied:

Oh, that’s easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, ‘We’re going to be out by Christmas.’ And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they’d say, ‘We’re going to be out by Easter.’ And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.[15]

Stockdale then added:

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.[15]

 

Stockdale was released as a prisoner of war on February 12, 1973 during Operation Homecoming. His shoulders had been wrenched from their sockets, his leg shattered by angry villagers and a torturer, and his back broken.

On March 4, 1976, Stockdale received the Medal of Honor. Stockdale filed charges against two other officers (Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Edison W. Miller and Navy Captain Walter E. “Gene” Wilber) who, he felt, had given aid and comfort to the enemy. However, the Navy Department under the leadership of then-Secretary of the Navy John Warner took no action and retired these men “in the best interests of the Navy.”[16][17]

Debilitated by his captivity and mistreatment, Stockdale could not stand upright and could barely walk upon his return to the United States, which prevented his return to active flying status. In deference to his previous service, the Navy kept him on active duty, steadily promoting him over the next few years before he retired as a vice admiral. He completed his career by serving as President of the Naval War College from October 13, 1977, until August 22, 1979.

 

And here is Stockdale’s Medal of Honor Citation:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while senior naval officer in the Prisoner of War camps of North Vietnam. Recognized by his captors as the leader in the Prisoners’ of War resistance to interrogation and in their refusal to participate in propaganda exploitation, Rear Adm. Stockdale was singled out for interrogation and attendant torture after he was detected in a covert communications attempt. Sensing the start of another purge, and aware that his earlier efforts at self-disfiguration to dissuade his captors from exploiting him for propaganda purposes had resulted in cruel and agonizing punishment, Rear Adm. Stockdale resolved to make himself a symbol of resistance regardless of personal sacrifice. He deliberately inflicted a near-mortal wound to his person in order to convince his captors of his willingness to give up his life rather than capitulate. He was subsequently discovered and revived by the North Vietnamese who, convinced of his indomitable spirit, abated in their employment of excessive harassment and torture toward all of the Prisoners of War. By his heroic action, at great peril to himself, he earned the everlasting gratitude of his fellow prisoners and of his country. Rear Adm. Stockdale’s valiant leadership and extraordinary courage in a hostile environment sustain and enhance the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service (emphasis added).

 

Now THAT is a hero. And that is also a stellar example of an officer who lead by example, and put the well being of his men first, above himself, and loyalty to his country first, above himself, and his actions directly saved his men from further torture, bolstered their morale, and likely saved lives – the exact opposite of McCain’s actions.  Please do not tell me that John McCain somehow deserves a “pass” for his behavior because of supposed duress (with all evidence pointing to him singing like a bird before suffering anything approaching what Stockdale endured) and when a real man, Stockdale, endured real duress, to say the least, and refused to submit and collaborate.  And please don’t try to tell me I have no right to condemn him unless I too was a POW.  Stockdale tried to press charges against two other officers who were POWs, for corroborating with the enemy, and I have no doubt he would have done the same with McCain had he known the full truth. And many of the men who did know the truth did their best to expose it, but were brushed aside and ignored because McCain’s daddy was an admiral and Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet.  Many of those men are now gone, and can no longer speak out.  So we will speak for them.

Here is what John McCain himself had to say about the Code of Conduct and the harm caused by prisoners that collaborated with the enemy:

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If he were just some poor Joe who endured hardship as a prisoner, I could understand and by sympathetic to him breaking under pressure and collaborating.  But he was not just some average Joe.  He was an Admiral’s son, and he rode a wave of propaganda of him being some kind of hero into Congress, and he has been there ever since, and because of his status as a “war hero” he has received deference, forgiveness for his repeated sins against the Constitution, and repeated reelection so he can violate it yet again, term after term.   He was no war hero.  A collaborator simply is not a hero.  He is, in fact, the opposite.  Maybe someone like that can be forgiven, or considered with sympathy, but he sure as hell should not be hailed as some kind of hero, or “national treasure” like Newt Gingrich just called McCain.  Stockdale was a real hero.  Calling McCain a hero cheapens that term.   And while for years people asserted that he made this recording (which he denied), the public never heard it, until now.  – Stewart Rhodes

 

COMMENT BY NAVY JACK:

The Silver Star was awarded to John McCain for resisting extreme mental and physical cruelties inflicted upon him by his captors in an attempt to obtain a false confession for propaganda purposes. McCain later admitted to signing a confession during his captivity that read “I am a black criminal and I have performed deeds of an air pirate.” McCain denied having made the taped confession you have just heard.

All pilots during the Vietnam War received the following general order:

If you are captured and tortured, you must resist, avoid, or evade, to the best of your ability, all enemy efforts to obtain statements or actions that will help the enemy. Examples of statements or actions to resist that are harmful to the US, its allies, or other prisoners, include:
• Oral or written confessions.
• Questionnaires or personal history statements.
• Propaganda recordings and broadcasts.
• Appeals to other PWs and appeals for surrender or peace.
• Engagement in self-criticism.
• Oral or written statements or communications on behalf of the enemy.
The enemy might use any confession or statement to convict you as a war criminal. It prolongs your right to repatriation until you serve a prison sentence.

Article V of the Code of Conduct:
When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country or its allies or harmful to their cause.

John McCain has received his status and position as a Senator with false claims and false valor. It’s one thing to break down under torture, if he actually was tortured. It is another thing altogether to accept decorations, political advancement and public acclaim based on these lies.

About Author

Stewart Rhodes

Stewart is the founder and National President of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. He is a former firearms instructor, former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff, and served as a volunteer firefighter in Montana. Stewart previously wrote the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine. Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

Comments

  1. LoneStarHog 5 August, 2016, 15:59

    Information sent to the Dr. Kelli Ward Campaign Headquarters in Arizona. Now, will the MSM, especially in Arizona, cover the blockbuster story?

    LoneStarHog (Hog)
    Texas Life Member #140

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 16:29

      Thanks LoneStarHog!

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      • LoneStarHog 5 August, 2016, 16:47

        FYI: Forwarded to The Drudge Report

        LoneStarHog (Hog)
        Texas Life Member #140

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        • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:14

          Thanks, and thanks again for letting me know about this recording. I do feel vindicated!

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          • cactusbob 5 August, 2016, 18:44

            I dare say Trump will also feel vindicated for his comment regarding McCain’s getting captured. I hope this gives Kelli Ward’s campaign a big boost and retires McCain.

            I seem to recall stories about the torture and McCain was badly affected when his interrogators finally “broke him.” I wonder if any fellow guests at the Hanoi Hilton will report how many of the other “guests” were also “broken.” I’d guess that there are very few members of the American public (or the military) who could hold up to the sort of torture they faced, and it wasn’t just water boarding.

          • LoneStarHog 7 August, 2016, 10:55

            Well, it appears that absolutely no outlet will touch this blockbuster of a story.

            Just to name a few places:

            > The Drudge Report
            > InfoWars – sent to the top three editors
            > Breitbart
            > ZeroHedge
            > Bill Still Report
            > Next News Network
            > Jim Stone, Freelance Journalist

            The Kelli Ward Campaign Headquarters never responded; sent twice.

            The Trump Campaign never returned my call to a detailed message.

            The Comment sections where a synopsis and link was left received no replies.

            So many honorable POWs who were actually heroes went to their graves known as liars, while this character built a political career based upon his lies.

            Stolen Valor of a military decoration or performance level is disgusting. Stolen Valor of others honor, integrity, and valor is beyond reprehensible. Yet, no one cares.

            All McCain had to do upon his return was admit that they broke him and the true men of honor and valor were his fellow POWs. Americans were so disgusted with the whole Vietnam experience, that he probably would have been forgiven, by at least the public.

            Now his saving asset is the apathy of Americans.

            LoneStarHog (Hog)
            Texas Life Member #140

          • FN9 7 August, 2016, 18:58

            If I recall correctly, when confronted by a reporter over the comment, you doubled down on it saying something to the effect that a firing squad would work just as well. (to my great delight and resounding applause)

          • LoneStarHog 11 August, 2016, 07:26

            Now that The Next News Network is helping to further break this story with its interview of Stewart Rhodes, the following was sent to Mr. Still and others in the so-called Alternative Media,

            LoneStarHog (Hog)
            Texas Life Member #140

            E-mail Follows:

            Next News Network> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHF0yXrwr-0

            Assisting in the suppression of a story that vindicates those who are no longer here to defend themselves – brave and honorable patriots who were stripped of their valor by a LIAR with the assistance of the MSM; men who were sent to their graves with the stigma of LIAR; a LIAR who was protected because of two Admirals in his family; CIA protected by “misfiling” of treasonous information – is as reprehensible as the act which one helps to suppress.

            True Americans what the TRUTH, no matter how bitter the taste; because they are sick of the taste of LIES and PROPAGANDA.

            Look in the mirror, Mr. Still, and tell me the difference between what you see and that which you claim to fight against.

            As usual, I expect to be ignored.

          • LoneStarHog 11 August, 2016, 10:25

            CRITICAL UPDATE: Okay, after a few E-mail/Message exchanges, Bill Still sent me his Cell Phone, and I just had a detailed discussion with him. He will be doing a video report later today.

            LoneStarHog (Hog)
            Texas Life Member #140

          • LoneStarHog 11 August, 2016, 17:25

            The Still Report> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQKp0kwIf8

            I am still working on the other Alternative Media outlets, and the Dr. Kelli Ward Campaign.

            LoneStarHog (Hog)
            Texas Life Member #140

          • Elias Alias 11 August, 2016, 23:49

            Thank you, Hog.

            Salute!
            Elias Alias, editor

      • Widhelm 13 August, 2016, 15:55

        Isn’t it obvious from the wording that this is a forced confession over a year after his capture? I am not a John McCain fan by any means, but this is not the best evidence of his bad behavior while on duty. I have long felt from watching him that something in him broke in the camp. It may have already been broken if he received special treatment while a POW, but had heard he refused it. I also heard he confessed to breaking under torture by the VietCong to his personal shame. He is not the brightest bulb in the pack and has served more than long enough, however, and should be retired and replaced.

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        • Preacher 16 August, 2016, 12:46

          They should hang him by his tongue for all the lies he told,then tar and feather him,and Air Drop him in Sagion

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    • BIG JOHN 5 August, 2016, 18:03

      COL. EARL HOPPER OF ARIZONA HAD MANY MORE RECORDINGS OF MCCAIN ON RADIO HANOI.

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      • 1860RidesAgain 5 August, 2016, 18:38

        Yes he did. Earl lost his son, an F 4 USAF pilot in VN in ’68. He headed up Task Force Omega’s efforts here in AZ. Stewart has support from a number of good men through the recent years.

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    • BobM 6 August, 2016, 07:23

      “Hot Dog Johnny” would have been BOOTED from the Navy if it weren’t for the TWO admirals in his family tree.If it takes the “RIGHT STUFF” to be a “naval aviator” his having it is “questionable”. Read all about it. http://www.pythiapress.com/wartales/McCain-Shootdown.htm

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    • JOHN 9 August, 2016, 20:54

      PHOENIX NEW TIMES online posted a long story on AUG 8

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  2. Chip 5 August, 2016, 16:19

    WOW! Makes perfect sense when you think about his disgraceful attacks against “Constitution-loving” Americans. Great work Stewart!

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 18:49

      Actually, credit goes to Gotnews.com and Truenews.com as well as Wesearchr.com, for digging it up.

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  3. Elias Alias 5 August, 2016, 16:24

    This article timestamped, posted, and sent to Oath Keepers’ full email list at 4:30 pm MTN Standard Time, August 05, 2016.

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    • MarkOwen 5 August, 2016, 19:26

      What happened to my comment? You had no business deleting it! I am a member of Oathkeepers #024947 since 2013 paid up till 2018. Mark Owen Goulette is my name. US Navy 1970 to 1974. Little Creek Amphib Base and Counterinsurgency School.

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 22:20

        Not sure what you mean. I didn’t delete any comment. Please resubmit it. Elias, did you delete a comment by this gent?

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        • Elias Alias 5 August, 2016, 22:40

          Stewart,
          I checked earlier when I posted this one by him. I looked in the trash bin and in the spam folder, but found nothing from him there. I looked just in case Shorty may have deleted one of his posts. If he is missing a post, it’s not in our system. I did find another post of his, somewhere on this thread. I would like to mention that sometimes both Shorty and I are away at the same time, and sometimes comments are delayed because of that.
          Salute!
          Elias Alias, editor

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          • Deborah 6 August, 2016, 12:55

            Sometimes we dont hit the post tab. I put on FB. Trump must know the people awake know better by now about mccain. Matter of no one in the hluse said of the appointed caliphate after purge of patriots 2009.

  4. Jim 5 August, 2016, 17:01

    Donald Trump was Right from the beginning McCain is a Traitor to the enemy and his fellow prisoners of war, and ultimately to the American people. He needs to retire and avoid the discrace he has brought to our Nation.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:13

      Yep, he was. Of course, all Trump did was state what was already well known among us veterans. But at least he had the balls to say it.

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    • MarkOwen 5 August, 2016, 19:11

      Right on Trump was right all along. His dad was an Admiral too, claims he could have got out of the Hilton early because of daddy but stayed because the other pilots weren’t allowed to go. Fact is he was being coddled by the North Vietnamese, even they called him the songbird. He will never face charges, He’s one of the political elite like Hitlary. Commit all the crimes you want to against We The People, there won’t be any consequences! What a crock!

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  5. Cal 5 August, 2016, 17:06

    “Well, now, can we finally try him for treason and then sentence him accordingly? Or will he, like Hillary Clinton, get a pass on his crimes despite direct, smoking gun evidence, because both of them are part of the political elite? ”

    I am ignoring your sentence after this one (“You already know the answer to that.”), Stewart, because what happens is up to us, not up to the domestic enemies and traitors serving within our governments. It is NOT up to them, they broke, and keep breaking the contract PLUS the Oaths they are under. They stand silent while knowingly letting a presidential impersonator “sit” in office as if he was a real US President.

    McCain can be charged by the First Branch of the US government – us; but it will only be recognized if done by someone/group in the “law” community – though that is not how our system is supposed to work.

    Also, is there now enough constitutionally required and trained Militia now to let those that serve within our governments know that they no longer are allowed to unlawfully use other agencies for those *duties constitutionally assigned to the Militia?
    *– Enforcing the US Constitution (supreme LAW of our nation) and each state’s Constitution (highest LAW of each state),
    — Enforcing and keeping the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
    — Protecting the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
    — “suppressing Insurrections and repelling Invasions”.

    Because then the answer is both McClain, H. Clinton, add Obama, etc to the list can all be held accountable.

    Daniel Webster: “We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land – nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.”

    *Dr. Vieira said it long ago in his book(s), lectures, etc that we no longer have a “government” because the only people who can serve within it with lawful authority as our representatives to anyone, any where, any nation MUST be constitutional in their actions or they no longer represent us.

    Dr. Vieira says it much better then I can here: “This has nothing to do with personalities or subjective ideas. It’s a matter of what the Constitution provides… The government of the United States has never violated anyone’s constitutional rights…
    The government of the United States will never violate anyone constitutional rights, because it cannot violate anyone’s constitutional rights. The reason for that is: The government of the United States is that set of actions by public officials that are consistent with the Constitution. Outside of its constitutional powers, the government of the United States has no legitimacy. It has no authority; and, it really even has no existence. It is what lawyers call a legal fiction.”

    America is living under a myth, not a lie. What is a myth? Basically it is a fiction or half-truth, especially one that forms part of an ideology.

    JFK also said it pretty well here (though I believe he was talking about secret societies, etc), speaking at Yale University on June 11, 1962: “For the greatest enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.”

    He was murdered for trying to change that myth by starting to dump the CIA, hold the FBI accountable, printing/printed money backed by gold and silver, dumping the Federal Reserve (list below of what he was trying to do for those that are interested), and then the MYTH of the super powerful one bullet that can swerve all over and up and down within one body and then travel into another human was created. What was sickening is that everyone let our US President be murdered and treasonous scum tell us what to think and believe about it – it doesn’t matter if they liked him or not, if they voted for him or not, it was the PEOPLE”S duty to not let those who serve within our governments lie to the people. They have done it ever since. Was he perfect – heck no, but was he tons better then ANY we have had since he was murdered? Oh yeah.

    Basically our choice is to enforce the constitution against the domestic enemies and traitors to our nation or roll over like a scared puppy and wet ourselves. It has to be done constitutionally because they are going to want to bring in the UN military (yeah, including our own sons/daughters/mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters/etc) to use against us and we must always be able to point to the US Constitution which is in writing and IS our legitimate government.

    John F Kennedy – for all his faults, he had the right idea about America, and compared to the Bush’s, Clinton’s, Obama, McClain, (Openly admitting their TREASON on the senate floor) Panetta & Dempsey, etc,etc, etc JFK was a fricken angel. When you read the list, knowing what we do know today – and we know little, it is no surprise he was murdered.

    – He was one of the few who served as a US President that NEVER attended a Bilderberg meeting
    – He was (almost) the only person to serve as a US President that was NOT either related to numerous other presidents, or to British royal family as is most often the case, or both
    – He was a genuine war hero – NOT like Traitor McClain
    – The Military Industrial Complex distrusted him as he did not swear to join them in their pursuits of UNLAWFUL wars, and he rejected every overture toward war they made to him
    – He refused to invade Cuba
    – He was seeking detente with Russia
    – He was pulling all troops out of Vietnam (by 1965 as final exit date – ticked off the brass in the Pentagon big time)
    – He was an intellectual, plus an accomplished author WHO WROTE MOST OF HIS OWN most memorable speeches (instead of reading what they are told to say)
    – Nor was he a part of the New York establishment
    – He was pretty much the only US President that was not “in bed with” the financial and legal community
    – He was the first and only US president who tried to rein in organized crime – which was funny considering how much his father was “friends” with them – they would/did take it badly
    – He hated and was hated by the CIA, and he was disbanding that agency for its unAmerican activities
    – He was against Israel getting and/or developing nukes, being on our dole
    – Congress passed the test ban treaty a bit before he was assassinated
    – Big business, particularly large Oil companies hated him. He stood up to US Steel, and was attempting to stop the long standing depletion allowance (corporate welfare)
    – He understood the Federal Reserve, what it was, what it was doing to America and was ending it for good.
    – JFK issued *Executive Order 11110, returning to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve
    – The order gave the Treasury the power “to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury”
    – Supposedly, though now hidden, Executive Order 11110 was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid today. (can this be used by OK, etc for creating valid $$)
    – He re-established the dollar backed by silver and gold (which when Johnson came in was immediately abolished and the newly minted real money confiscated
    – He did not believe in secret societies, or secrecy in government (as the Constitution requires openness in our government)
    – JFK stood for openness and the free flow of information
    – He promoted the civil rights movement
    – The 1st US President to refuse taking a salary
    – First Catholic to be a US President
    — 18 material witnesses died within three years of the JFK assassination, which the odds were put as 1 in 100,000 TRILLION and this was not including Oswald, Ruby, and at least 20 others
    —- Understand that his body was stolen and illegally transported by the Secret Service – when the Dallas police had legal jurisdiction (assassination was not a federal crime at that time, and constitutionally it still isn’t under federal jurisdiction).

    We are still lying down and not demanding, as is our lawful right, all and any information pertaining to his Murder, Ruby Ridge, OK bombings, Waco, 9/11, various other murders of those defending the US Constitution, etc etc.

    So if we actually start doing as our US Constitution says, and we make our elections honest, whoever goes into office needs EVERYONE replaced down to the floor cleaners or they too will be murdered. But look at the good side, jobs will be provided, even though a lot of gov jobs would be lost by the dismantlement of ALL unconstitutional agencies.

    Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation and the ramifications of this bill was that President Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates had been put into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes, eliminating the Federal reserve without destroying our nation. When one understands that his actions listed was challenging the “government controlled by money when he challenged the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt – war (always ued throughout history) and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank (relatively new concept compared to war). His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the Federal Reserve/New York banking establishment that has been working to bring the USA and the American people to their knees – where we basically are today.

    *Executive Order 11110 – Amendment of Executive Order No. 10289 as Amended, Relating to the Performance of Certain Functions Affecting the Department of the Treasury
    June 4, 1963
    By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

    SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended —

    (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

    “(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,” and

    (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

    SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

    JOHN F. KENNEDY
    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    June 4, 1963

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:22

      Cal, you are preaching to the choir, when addressing me or other Oath Keepers on this. You do know that, don’t you? And the first step for us is to try him in the court of public opinion, which is what we are doing right now. I am in fact making the same point you are – the corrupt regime, the “shadow government” that all these traitors are beholden to, will not hold them accountable, and neither will any branch of the Federal Government, which that shadow government has captured lock, stock, and barrel. It will indeed have to be “We the People” who hold them all accountable. And we shall. But we will need to build up a critical mass of outrage and resolve among the people to get that done. That is the stage we are in right now. Make the most of it.

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      • Cal 6 August, 2016, 07:31

        Yeah, and it got you back “in the saddle” again. You were sounding overwhelmed – which we all get.

        I admit to preaching to the choir /smile

        We can get through this Stewart. OK is doing great work opening the minds of the serving and LE’s. I do most of my work with the common people, and those that immigrated here because the immigrants – those that came here lawfully – are a weak point. That is why those that serve within our governments put everything into different languages not just English. That is why keeping their “traditions” are heavily encouraged and supported – financially not just politically. They, too, must understand that everything now given to them (and not saying all immigrants do not work, as that would be a lie), but even when they work much is given to them.

        This political year they have people who speak the language of the person they care calling and telling them in their own language who to vote for, how to do it. Found that out by accident, but is a good strategy and possibly legal. Not sure if they have done this before, but it is really organized and persistent.

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    • MMinLamesa 6 August, 2016, 13:48

      Have you seen this compelling documentary?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4p7DBomWYA

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  6. 1860RidesAgain 5 August, 2016, 17:17

    I had a friend, a good friend, Ted Sampley is his name, from Kinston, NC. He ran the the Last Firebase in DC, had a house in the city for vets down on their luck, and was the moving force behind The US Veteran Dispatch until his untimely death a few years ago. Ted called McCain the ‘Manchurian Candidate’ and ‘PW Songbird’ and most ignored him…some of us didn’t.

    Ted was VN first tour 173rd AB, second tour GB after coming home and handling SF school, foremost he was all American. The kind of man you would follow to the gates of hell, the kind of man this country so desperately needs in this hour. We miss you brother, sometimes lost without you but this one is for you and Ted Guy: You had it right all along.

    Thanks Stewart, this posting means a ton.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:39

      There you go. Ted was right, and since he is now dead, we WILL speak for him. McCain should do something actually honorable, for once since he threw away his integrity in 1969, and just resign. But again, we can’t expect honor from the dishonorable.

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  7. ED ORR 5 August, 2016, 17:19

    There is a little known procedure in the UCMJ where a former military person can be returned to active duty and court-martialed . John McCain meets and exceeded the requirements. I learned about this from Admiral Elmo Zumwalt who I contacted seeking help to expose another phony hero cleaning 11 purple hearts and several Navy Crosses…al BOGUS. It CAN be done!

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:36

      Interesting. Tell us more.

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    • Lady 27 May, 2017, 20:46

      Please help get this vile Maputo of office. He was a traitor then and a traitor now to WE THE PEOPLE! Need everyone to hear tape and information out in open, now.

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  8. Mike Murray 5 August, 2016, 17:25

    I can’t stand McCain’s politics, but it’s to easy to condemn his actions in captivity from a safe place 40+ years later. If he lied about it, that’s one thing, but no man can know how he would react under those conditions. If you ain’t been there, shut up.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 17:36

      Bull. Every service member is instructed that they are NOT to aid the enemy in such a way, and many of the men who were there in fact refused to do what McCain did. They did not roll over and turn “songbird.” And they were tortured because they refused. One of them was James Stockdale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale. Now there was a REAL POW hero. He was tortured many times for standing up for his men and refusing to bend and do what McCain did.

      And don’t tell me that “no man can know how he would react under those conditions.” Plenty of Americans knew exactly how they would react, and followed through, with honor, on their convictions, on their orders, and on their training and refused to collaborate. So, no, he doesn’t get a pass. And no, I will not shut up. Do we have to bring out some POW who has been there, to say the same damn thing I have said for years? The man is a traitor, and a liar, and a fake hero.

      And even if you still insist on giving him a pass for collaborating with the enemy (for which he could have been tried by military tribunal – if his Daddy wasn’t an Admiral), even you admit that his lying about it, and denying it, and building a political career on that lie, and on that shameful cowardice, is itself inexcusable. Or are you going to say that unless and until I am a politician I can’t say what I would do under the same circumstances?

      That logic – that “no man can know how he would react under those conditions”can be used to excuse all manner of immoral, dishonorable, and criminal acts. No doubt the Nazis tried at Nuremburg thought the same thing. But they were wrong too. People must be held accountable for their dishonor and for their treason, and they don’t get a pass, and we don’t have to be POWs to say so.

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      • Ed 5 August, 2016, 17:57

        I appreciate your service Mr. Rhodes, AND number of years spent by Stewart Rhodes as a prisoner of war : zero

        Number of minutes Stewart Rhodes has been a POW: zero

        Amount of actual torture Stewart Rhodes has had in his life : none

        There are people with a frame of reference to judge John McCains actions as a prisoner, AND Stewart Rhodes is not one of them.

        Feel free to tell us all about the rigors of law school.

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        • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 19:55

          Well, many of the POW survivors who did call out McCain are now dead. So, they can’t speak anymore, now that they have been proven right and vindicated. So, we will speak for them.

          While they were alive, the liar McCain called THEM liars, and they were vilified by the media. Now the truth is out.

          So, no, I will not shut up. But hey, I now invite all the former POWs to come here and tell us what they think of McCain. When they do, I’ll gladly sit back down and let them have the floor.

          And since you want to make it personal with me – long, long before I went to law school, I served as a US Army paratrooper, and I nearly died twice while in service, the last time being a nasty parachuting accident on a night jump that broke my back. I spent six months in a body cast. So please don’t talk down to me like I’m some pampered law student who never put himself at risk. I have a right to speak out like any other veteran who served honorably under the Code of Conduct. This snake, who did not, and then went on to falsify himself, and lie about his service, and lie about good men who called him out, deserves zero respect. He was a pampered admiral’s son who got preferential, pampered treatment by the enemy in exchange for his collaboration.

          I wish Admiral Stockdale were still alive so he could come here and comment.

          But let’s see what the actual POWs who still are alive have to say, shall we?

          Stewart

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          • Ed 6 August, 2016, 04:07

            Knowing POWs does not give you license to speak for all of them. It is fair bet that not all POWs would agree on this. What I find galling is that a guy who saw zero combat is willing to make blanket judgements on other vets who did. Way to be a brother. Clearly you wish you had been a war hero. Perhaps you had it in you. But you are not a war hero. It did not turn out that way. I still appreciate your service, tearing down the obvious patriotism of others makes you less of a man, not more of one. You can hate McCains politics, he fought to give you that option, but his service record is far beyond yours. Have some respect.

          • Joseph S. Carrilho 6 August, 2016, 23:55

            My discernment is pretty good and this “Ed” sounds exactly like
            a troll.
            All they do is irritate, insult, waste time.

        • Cal 6 August, 2016, 07:42

          @ Ed,

          What are your frames of reference that lets you talk that way to Stewart? Been a POW? Been in the US military? Serving now within our government as a shill? Trying to drive a wedge here and take the attention away from TRAITOR McCain?

          What have you been doing to stop the domestic enemies here at home? Teaching the military and LE’s, etc about what that Oath means? Assisting in making sure that any lawful person residing here in the US is safe in the coming disaster (whatever it will be)? Doing anything to make your neighborhood safer? Your town/city? What about your county? Doing anything about our fraudulent elections? ETC.

          If you are one of the paid government shills here commenting, understand that working against our legitimate government is treason. If you are not a shill, why did you not bother to do the research on Stewart before commenting? You do not have to agree with him, heck, we bump heads every so often – but here, unless you have the experience or knowledge don’t you attack him and his values because I will stand for him in any way I have to.

          So to say it not so nicely and definitely not PC, shut up.

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          • Ed 6 August, 2016, 13:19

            You guys throw around the term “traitor” (in allcaps, no less) with all the care of a child calling another child stupid. That word has a definition, and it is not subtle. It is worse than calling someone a murderer.

            I have been clear in appreciating Stewarts service. I have tried to model appropriate behavior. The core error that you guys are making is subjecting all heroism or virtue to a political litmus test. Because you disagree with McCain, politically, you cannot seem to give him any credit for anything he has ever done. This is exactly what any dictatorship does, only people who strictly adhere to the chosen ideology can be “heroes”. I would offer that this is not a traditionally American way of judging virtue.

            The founders would be the first to tell you that one of the chief purposes of democracy (beyond its number one job of giving the people control of their government) is providing a framework for reaching policy decisions, without violence. We argue about it, we try to convince each other, we have an election, we vote, and those representatives who are elected hammer out a compromise, and we all live with the results until the next scheduled round of elections. Democracy presupposes that you are go to disagree, vehemently sometimes, with your neighbors. It also presupposes that you can somehow refrain from calling your neighbors “traitors” for disagreeing with you. We can have radically different opinions on taxes, or criminal justice, or immigration, or nearly anything, and still both see each other as good citizens. When you call somebody a traitor, for disagreeing with you, you are not being a good American. When you ignore their obviously patriotic acts, due to your own petty politics, you are being very small, as a man.

            I am never going to vote for McCain ever. That does not prevent me from thanking him for his service. Some real lefties, like Keith Olbermann or The Young Turks, who freaking hate McCain, always give him credit for his service. When you guys call McCain a traitor, based on his service record, you alienate most good Americans immediately, because those attacks say way more about you than thy do McCain.

        • Joseph S. Carrilho 6 August, 2016, 23:48

          ED, you sound like a troll.

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          • Ivan Berry 7 August, 2016, 17:40

            Did you notice that Ed got on to OK’s for putting “traitor” IN ALL CAPS? But nobody did that. Only Cal once used caps for the word “treason” well above, and only once. Does that make Ed a lyer, or was he just mistaken? Exaggeration maybe?
            Now, if you know you are weak morally, lack courage and prone to give in, isn’t it honorable to refuse a job or position that calls for those attributes? If you fail, is it unreasonable to expect your asking for forgiveness and fessing up to those affected?
            Isn’t it adding insult to injury to take credit for that which you are not due. A hero in name only, without the attributes for earning and owning that status is the essence of the dishonorable. The objectional political positions that are objectionable are the ones that completly ignor the Constitution, not the position of being on his knees under duress.

    • Joseph C. Moore, USN Ret. 5 August, 2016, 17:42

      Mike, you are correct. People should concentrate on his abominable record while in congress.

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 18:27

        And I actually agree with that. Last year, when I called McCain out as a traitor and said he should be tried for treason, and if convicted, should suffer the usual sentence, I was talking about his support for, and sponsorship of the military detention and military trial provisions in the NDAA of 2012, which apply to American citizens as well as foreigners. That was my focus. But obviously he got away with that treason (so far) so I’ll take what I can get.

        And collaborating with the enemy is a violation of the UCMJ and is a very serious offense, and a direct violation of the Code of Conduct:

        Code of Conduct for Members of the United States Armed Forces[3][4][5]

        I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
        II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
        III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
        IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
        V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause
        VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

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  9. Ed 5 August, 2016, 17:34

    You guys are just awful human beings. Even if this recording is authentic, and that has been by no means established, does it make McCain a traitor? He was captured fighting for this country. He stayed with his men when he might have been released. Those are facts. If, and it is still an if, if he broke down and made a recording, after God only knows what torture, that does not make him a traitor in my eyes. If you guys feel comfortable judging what POWs do to survive, well then good luck with your high and mighty attitudes. My guess is your creator will take a dim view of your position. My guess is zero of you have been a POW for years. You are not the sole arbiters of heroism. You sound like a pack of wannabes, thrilled that somebody so much higher than you on the totem pole might have fallen a bit.

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    • 1860RidesAgain 5 August, 2016, 18:12

      Read this Ed. Ted Guy was McCain’s SRO in one POW camp…he wanted McCain court -martialed for treason, it ended with Nixon’s blanket pardon. What ever he did he was a traitor in Ted Guy’s eyes, read it if you really have a desire for the truth of the matter. If you don’t stop the pot shots at those of us who do. It hasn’t been ‘if’ for a very long time.

      http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainSangLikeACanary.htm

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      • Steve 21 June, 2017, 21:08

        There was NO BLANKET PARDON issued by President Nixon on behalf of the POWs. That is just one MORE canard you fools have accepted. ALL pardons have a registered number. What is the number of this ALLEGED pardon?

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    • Chip 5 August, 2016, 18:35

      For God sakes Ed…look where the hell we are! Honorable men in power would not have allowed this. Honorable men wouldn’t attack their patriotic peers for questioning the Muslim Brotherhoods infiltration into our own government. May I remind you that Benedict Arnold was a war hero…before he was a traitor?

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    • Deborah 6 August, 2016, 19:05

      Please sit down. slamming men that would die for freedom is not becoming. Choose one just one liberty or slavery. That is the only question you really need to answer. Save your energy for good. Are you a pow? Ever betrayed your country? Stubborn enough to save liberty at all cost including follow the code? A real man would. This is the time to separate real men from the boys. Actually long past tbe time. See the voting pattern first then decide when you are informed. Be blessed

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  10. Joseph C. Moore-USN Ret. 5 August, 2016, 17:39

    While McCain has certainly been no constitutional conservative in congress, you have to realize that incarceration of officers in the Vietnam prison was brutal. Officers were tortured more than enlisted as they supposedly had more to reveal than low level soldiers and sailors. I defy you to spend 6 years under such brutal conditions and not have severe mental stress to the breaking point. Those recordings were scripted by the North Vietnamese and should be taken by the receiving public as meaningless. McCain’s ignoble, constitution ignoring while in congress presents another matter, but leftists kept re-electing him. I do not know him personally but can certainly feel sympathy for his failings under the years of incarceration/mistreatment by the North Vietnamese. I have NO sympathy for his leftist role as a so-called Republican in congress and he should have been replaced years ago.

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    • StormN1 5 August, 2016, 18:25

      I agree with this post. I’m from Arizona for which McCain is Senator. He had such a bad temper that diplomatic then-governor Rose Mofford had to finally say something in public about his behavior to her staff. Then when I finally realized he was a silver-spoon-fed RINO he literally went from hero to zero for me. What a disappointment! BUT . . .

      Have you noticed how he always has a pen in his hand. He can’t raise his arms above his head because his jailers left his arms broken for all those years. So when I read that he states that he is being well-treated medically by his captors I believe it is under duress. Until I see more prove of otherwise, I can’t believe otherwise. He’s using crutches in the photo – was that to support his upper body or was there also something wrong with his legs? He has been unwavering against any form of torture, waterboarding, etc. – I expect because he experienced plenty of it first hand. I’m over 60 years old and I vaguely remember hearing/reading that he turned down the opportunity to come home – reportedly he was offered that opportunity by his captors because they figured out he was the son of an admiral. So I don’t think he’s a coward – just a spoiled, rich brat. That Stewart feels so strongly about this does give me pause for thought. I expect that will motivate me to sooner rather than later read up on more of this.

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      • 1860RidesAgain 5 August, 2016, 20:14

        I also am in AZ, and though I think I can handle anything, I don’t know how I would respond to torture (things keep going the way they are here we may someday be able to answer exactly, through trial). I am also over 60…and an OK. However, to paraphrase one of the framers of this nation, when choosing men to represent us, we need be mindful of their character; dishonest in one station of life they should be considered unfit in another.

        In 1992, McCain was a member of the Senate Select committee, assembled to provide full and final resolution to the POW/MIA issue, expressly those left behind in Vietnam. Among them were Bob Smith (NH) and Charles Grassley (IA), men who honestly sought to give the family members more than the old ‘Potomac Two Step’. Also among them was John Kerry, you know the one, the poster child of the brown water Navy boys. With whom did McCain ally? Kerry, and they steamrolled every effort of Smith and Grassley to reveal the truth and do something with it. I wrote to McCain, my senator, after the white washing was published to get a copy…no go…I do have a copy though thanks to the Honorable Jesse Helms (NC). You would think that a man who had suffered so much would be at least somewhat considerate of those suffering such unexplained loss. This was more than political posturing.

        Also, he is known to have been a major supporter of Clinton’s lifting of the trade embargo. The man went so far as to embrace former NV Colonel Bui Tin, a man in part responsible for the treatment – and deaths – of our POW’s. As Ted Sampley asked, “Why would he [of all people] do this?” Ted Guy never did. Swede Larson never did. And neither would you or I most likely.

        Based on these actions, and others since his term of capture, are what make the man unworthy of public office. No one has tortured him since he has been in office, he has betrayed this oath much easier and left the rest of us hurting in the wake.

        Swede Larson once said that McCain probably didn’t give them (his captors) anymore than they already knew. Men Like Nick Rowe and Rocky Versace gave them nothing. What kind of men do we want to lead us?

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 22:30

        Well, I do admit that I find McCain utterly despicable, so perhaps that is clouding my judgment of his actions while a POW – but it seems to me he never fully confessed all that he did as a collaborator. For instance, I do not know of any instance where he admitted making this recording. All I can find is an admission that he gave up some military information in exchange for better medical treatment, and also a reference by another POW that supported his campaign that said McCain did sign a confession, but supposedly intentionally inserted mispellings and obvious communist phrases so the other prisoners would know it was done under duress, but no mention of this broadcast, and those same friends of McCain, along with McCain himself, attacked anyone who did mention this broadcast. See this article from back in 2008, claiming that there is no evidence he was a collaborator:

        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author 5 August, 2016, 20:02

      And yet, Stockdale and many other officers DID stand firm and endured torture, denial of medical care, denial of food, solitary confinement, and some of them even died in captivity because of their refusal to collaborate. They set the example, and their example gave their men the courage and the resolve to not give up. They were an inspiration to their men. McCain? Not so much.

      But I do agree with you that his record in Congress is the real, entirely unmitigated treason. But he never would have served a day in office if he had not also been a liar as well as a collaborator, and if his Daddy had not been an Admiral. So, his treason against the Constitution while in office was only possible because of his false hero status.

      Stewart

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  11. Doc 5 August, 2016, 17:50

    Stewart, I never, for one second, thought you were lying about this miscreant. I have always had a gut feelin he was a traitor. Regardless, the truth is out. The only two things left to do is watch him squirm and loose an election. I can’t say I won’t enjoy that.

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  12. Fred 5 August, 2016, 17:57

    Wow, he certainly exposed every charge against himself, in order, right down the list, word for word. Seems very precise, bizarrely perfect in fact. I await confirmation of the facts. Not saying it’s a fake, just wow.

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  13. LoneStarHog 5 August, 2016, 18:35

    DAMN! I have desperately been attempting to contact the Trump Campaign. The only thing possible was to leave a phone message a couple of hours ago. Trump is presently having a rally in Green Bay, WI. Sure enough, he just endorsed Paul Ryan and JOHN MCCAIN, making glowing remarks about McCain being a HERO, HONORABLE, and blah, blah, blah.

    I sent this to The Drudge Report, InfoWars, ZeroHedge, et al. What now, Donald, if all this news BREAKS and your butt is exposed because NO ONE WAS ABLE TO CONTACT YOU?????

    Frustrated In Texas,

    LoneStarHog (Hog)
    Texas Life Member #140

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    • Elias Alias 5 August, 2016, 19:17

      Yeah, and just fyi, I’ve not forgotten about the article you sent me last week.

      Don’t let the bastards wear you down, Hog. Hell, Bro, we’re in this for the long haul. Trump, btw, has flirted with the damned CFR and has also flirted with the cover-up specialist, Rudy Giuliani. He is also friendly with the military-industrial complex neo-con war hawks from WDC and Wall Street. We are never going to see a perfect candidate I suppose, so, personally, I’m done with looking for any sign of hope from within that cursed beltway. Trump ain’t God, and neither is any other mortal servant of statism who may grace the people’s highest governmental seat. We the people are going to have to reclaim our communities to protect our way of life, and that is what the machine McCain works for considers to be “terrorism”.
      The wreckage of the corrupt, sinful, criminal war-crime called the Viet Nam War continues to mar our self-image as a nation, and McCain’s demise over this could be a start for cleaning up a lot of old unfinished business, a task with which we citizens are a bit tardy in addressing. Just don’t worry about Trump (or Hitlery). Both of them are statists, believing in the power of government to structure, organize, control, prescribe, identify, catalogue, surveil, limit, license, permit, tax, and, if faced with our non-compliance or dissent, will demonize us and use deadly force to keep the people in line. (We notice that every damned federal agency now has a SWAT team, including the Department of Education.) McCain has helped build momentum in that evolving militarization of the way government administers itself outward from WDC to the people.
      But I ramble. Thanks Hog.
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor

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      • Widhelm 13 August, 2016, 16:12

        Trump’s message and his overwhelming popularity (haha the polls!) against the terribly chosen and damaged Hillary has left me wondering at times if he is the Manchurian candidate. A wall keeps people in as well as out. We are begging for it, just like we begged to go into WWI and WWII, exactly as the Globalists wanted. It worries me. They tend to set things up that way: feed us what they want us to believe, then snap the trap. They also are feeding us to enrage us against Muslims. That also leaves me wondering what the plan is. Our CIA and stand-in terrorists have certainly done a number in Africa and the Middle East (you know, where all the rich resources are – except for Russia which is still flush with natural resources). I’d like to hear other’s thoughts on this.

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        • Elias Alias 13 August, 2016, 17:56

          If you will excuse me please, I feel a mini-rant coming on. This is just for anyone’s general reading, okay? Thanks.
          I’m not even following the stupid presidential election. After the 2008 cycle it dawned on me that there is no solution inside that beltway and it really makes no difference who is in the White House, because the White House is fully controlled by interests more powerful than our debt-based federal government. My focus is on local only, with perhaps some interest in State level. There are competing power-grabs at the global level comprised of regional-level competitions. There are almost 200 nation-states on the membership roster at the United Nations, and almost every damned one of them is dominated by a Central Bank, like our Federal Reserve System here. Western Europe, Africa, the middle-east, Eastern Europe, China and Asia, and the western hemisphere Americas are all objects of competition by those who would control national, regional, and global assets such as national economies, currencies, financial operations, cultural/societal engineering systems, governmental control of respective national and regional populations, Intelligence community assets like militaries/Navies/Armies/etc. as well as media control over mass perception, and engineered psychological operations designed to keep the world’s richest family firmly implanted atop the pyramid of global power. That would be the Rothschild family dynasty, and anyone who can’t figure out by now that what used to be the People’s White House is, and has been under the last four Presidents in a row (two Dems, two Reps, haha), heavily controlled and influenced by the Technocratic hierarchy of power-dispersion emanating from the Rothschild family dynasty’s control system.

          The American voting masses are too comfortably numb (as Pink Floyd would put it) to even wake up to the extremely devastating exposure of rampant voter fraud which we bought into when they came up with electronic voting machines married to computer software. We’re cooked as far as any election is concerned — until the external powers which are directing Federal activity are cut out of our governmental processes, we’re truly cooked. One of the two idiots presently vying for the office will be “selected” — believe that or not. But either one of them is at heart a damned-by-God Statist, believing in the authority of government to regulate and rule humanity. It’s just a question of who’s dominance looks better, his or hers. The only sane politician I see on the global stage at present time is Putin of Russia. He is trying to warn the American people, to wake them up, to get them to look at the sin belching forth from Washington D.C. While the media has everyone hyped up on defeating Trump or defeating Hitlery, our insane federal government is pushing for World War III in the middle east — an obvious goal of the Fabian Socialists, the Rhodes Round Table Legacy-actors, and the Luciferian Globalist Socialist/Communist/Statist Banking families who gave us the IRS and the Federal Reserve in 1913, took our gold in 1933, created national citizenship with the Fourteenth Amendment, gave us the United Nations in 1945, created the CIA in 1947, killed President Kennedy when he opposed their conspiracy by seeking to withdraw the military-industrial-complex’s investment in Viet Nam/S.E. Asia, “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces“, (yes, he actually said that), remove our currency from the Federal Reserve and put it back into the U.S. Treasury Department where it belongs (see the Kennedy Five and Two Dollar bills at your collectors coin shop, or buy yours online while a few of them remain), and now can be shown to truly seek total chaos raining down upon all of humanity — and almost no one is talking about it (except for Putin’s attempts to reach We The People to show us what our own damned idiotic government is doing “over there”, because the idiot media is packed with “he says! she says! oh Dear! who shall be our next Great Ruler in the White House?

          The whole world is falling for a false political/governmental paradigm, and we’re too damned late to stop that stampede. I saw it coming sixteen years ago and shut down my retail store and moved out of the City of Man and into the country, as far as I can get from “civilization”, which today is totally dependent upon “perpetual war for perpetual peace” (as Gove Vidal puts it), NGOs married to the Corporate Dynasty, and Banks. Anyone who believes in the power of prayer is now fully justified to take to one’s knees and start praying, pronto, and get prepared for the chaos which is being designed for us while they distract us with a stupid Presidential election contested by two power-hogs. Right now is a great time to make friends with one’s neighbors, look into Oath Keepers’ CPT program, prepare in our communities for hard times, rebuild the trust we once enjoyed as Americans, and get ready to ride out a very nasty oncoming storm.

          And as a dear friend often reminds me, “Don’t vote — it only encourages them.

          [/rant]

          Salute!
          Elias Alias, editor

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  14. 5WarVeteran 5 August, 2016, 19:18

    I never forgot what he did. I have been attacked and derided over the years. This is also why I have been saying I expect Bowe Bergdahl to run for the presidency in the future…

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  15. WGP 5 August, 2016, 19:29
  16. happyjack 5 August, 2016, 19:32

    He should be stripped of all medals etc. taken over to middle east and let ISIS have him.
    What a disgusting joke!

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  17. Jim 5 August, 2016, 21:35

    There was an article and interview about him in the 1973 U.S. News and world report where he stated he “gave military information in exchange for medical treatment”, I looked it up on microfiche at the local university library some years ago, thanks to the tip from Bo Gritz.

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  18. Charles Martel 5 August, 2016, 23:34

    For a long time I believed the story of McCain’s “heroic resistance” to the North Vietnamese Communists while in captivity, and wondered why he would not resist the domestic Communists in Congress or the White House — Now I know. In all fairness, I could see how someone in that situation could succumb to the pressure to read a script obviously written in imperfect English by his North Vietnamese captors, but there’s obviously more to the story here. I’d really like to know more about what his fellow prisoners have to say about his conduct there.

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  19. sjrlady 6 August, 2016, 03:45

    John McCain and the POW Cover-Up
    The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
    Sydney Schanberg • The American Conservative
    • May 25, 2010
    • 8,100 Words

    http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

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  20. WoJoe 6 August, 2016, 05:21

    Being a Vietnam Vet, I too have seen McCain as a traitor who has bullied his way through the political scene. He has also been disrespectful to the members who have fought for the POW/MIA issue. However, as much as I have disdain for McCain, he actually spoke the truth though, at the time, he was using it to his advantage. I say he spoke truth in that we, as the private, corporate entity known as, and doing business as the United States of America, Inc. that now poses as our lawful government did commit atrocities on our own soldiers and those innocent people of Vietnam when we invaded Vietnam over a false flag event known as the ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ incident that was a total fabricated lie. Again, McCain, acting in his own interest, caused much damage to other vets and his country, we, as a people, need to awaken to the fact that we have a corporate entity posing as our lawful government and take action to correct this clear and present danger to our country.

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    • Elias Alias 13 August, 2016, 18:23

      WoJoe,
      Welcome Home, Bro! I’m also a ‘Nam Vet and I’m very glad that you’ve seen through the maze of lies. I totally agree with your statement. Thank you.
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor

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  21. flinter 6 August, 2016, 08:32

    I never could stand Mcain. I always considered him to be just another pompous warmonger. It is truly unfortunate that nothing will ever happen to him for the crimes he has committed. He will skate away scott free just like Hillary and all the rest. Given the total dumbass mentality of the people these days, He will no doubt get reelected too. I wouldn’t get too excited about having him tried for treason. It will never happen in his lifetime.

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  22. Obbop 6 August, 2016, 08:37

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=22879150

    Cole Black, XO of USS New Orleans LPH 11. Interacted with him while aboard in 1976-77. You could still see the scars from his experiences. Tough hombre. Had to respect him. Rest in peace, Sir.

    Ignoring the multitude of individual actions of that ‘Nam fray and mentally referring to the dozens of non-fiction works read over the decades trying to understand all aspects of the Vietnam Conflict I feel confident in expressing a very general statement: Vietnam, the war the USA should never have been involved in.

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  23. whitehorse67 6 August, 2016, 12:12

    He made this WHILE a prisoner of war….being tortured daily. I challenge ANYONE making judgement to resist making this recording under duress. Those who call him a traitor should be ashamed.

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  24. USMC0351Grunt 6 August, 2016, 13:36

    Can anyone explain to me why McCain’s actions or lack thereof not be considered, “stolen valor”?

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  25. WGP 6 August, 2016, 15:41

    Keep in mind traitor John Kerry … Justice within the ranks of politics is non existent in the NWO globalist web of circles.

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  26. JimTh 6 August, 2016, 16:59

    I understand the anger many must feel, however(you knew this was coming) although I am not a fan of John McCain, I just can’t bring myself to condemn the man either. Nor could I condemn any man that fought in a war became seriously injured and was captured by the enemy. There have been many soldiers that have fought in wars and been captured and have not done anything to dishonor the oath they took. I am one that never saw any combat operations nor was I ever captured by the enemy. I feel it is difficult to imagine the anguish POW’s must feel during their confinement and torture. Surely McCain supporters need to stop holding him up as a “hero” (what is a hero anyway). McCain once said he doesn’t consider himself a hero, probably for good reason. He flew combat aircraft off of a carrier and often returned to that carrier with his jet. That to me tells me that McCain at one time possessed the right stuff. I am just not sure how I would react to the style of imprisonment he endured, nor do I ever want to be tested. Lots of men held up their end of the oath…even when their country didn’t. I wish McCain well. I think he needs to be replaced in the senate, but not for what he may or may not have done in Vietnam. I would like to think I am as courageous as a male lion but one only knows their courage when they are under fire.

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  27. Crazyhair 6 August, 2016, 23:28

    Enough people enough! I don’t like McCain because of his politics either, but I figure he is a small pimple upon something much larger we need to tackle. I joined this organization because I haven’t been around a family since I was a kid. I thought that maybe I could be a part of the truth but all I have witnessed is everyone at each others throat. You people want others from the outside to notice you but you don’t know how to deliver it! You people want the world but you don’t know how to handle it! As far as membership yes I did receive my decals stating I am a member but that does not mean I am proud to display them as I have not! I have been uneasy since the start and I will not! I wanted to say we are in this together and we will get through this together… but not yet! The enemy is not abroad….. it is within! ….Destroy it before it destroys you. I quit your organization!

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    • Chip 7 August, 2016, 17:37

      “Small pimple”???? He is one of the Oligarch Admirals! Maybe 4H is looking for some new members “Crazyhair”…yikes.

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  28. Dr. John 7 August, 2016, 01:48

    The hell with McManchurian Candidate.
    Nam Vet. 15 months. Engineer Hill and Dragon Mt. 68′-69′. Signal Corps.

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    • Elias Alias 7 August, 2016, 02:55

      Welcome home, Bro!
      Thank you for going “over there”, and thank you for being “here” now.
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor (In country ’66 & ’67, USMC)

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  29. Ed Vallejo 7 August, 2016, 06:57

    July 19th, 1967 – Hot Dog Johnny KILLS 27 AND WOUNDS 100 in the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy when he thinks it’s funny to wet-start his plane and engulf the pilot behind him in flames.

    http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/35321150/navy-releases-mccains-records

    Ward Off McCain – vote for Kelli!

    Ed in Phoenix

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    • BonAmi 21 February, 2017, 08:36

      No one has yet mentioned his other improprieties, major screw ups, that my sons would’ve been imprisoned for, completely stripped of any illusion or honorable status in the military, totally humiliated without any claim to service support. McCain was from one of the Elite and power families, so normal rules just aren’t applied to them, cover ups instead of dishonorable discharges or prison. People need to understand, McCain has gotten away with so much that he feels emboldened and safe, when he gets on his high horse insulting current POTUS and accusing him of trying to destroy the “Free” Press, other outright lies to sabotage not only Trump, but his administration and the Rep Party. He acts like a traitor now, and I’ve no doubt he’s also behind the WH leaks. He’s a NWO shill, no doubt his allegiance is to the UN and entities who are attempting the overthrow of our country, destroying our Constitution and creating divisions to weaken our society. He’s not with us.

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  30. TimE 7 August, 2016, 17:49

    I think you’re way off base here calling McCain a “traitor”.
    Unless YOU have been in those shoes, getting tortured and living in constant pain from injuries received during your shoot down, maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to judge. Stockdale was indeed a hero and he received well deserved awards for his heroism. He and many others captured by the North Vietnamese will be the first to tell you that nearly ALL prisoners broke at one time or another. Stockdale did not but he was the exception, not the rule. That doesn’t make those men “traitors” who resisted mentally and physically to the best of their ability. Many of them have written books and described how after “breaking” under duress and torture, many became nearly suicidal. It was only the encouragement of their fellow POW’s and their honesty in admitting to one another when they DID break, that kept them going and gave them the courage to try and resist breaking as long as possible in subsequent torture sessions. Unless you’ve been through that, your judgment holds validity.
    Here’s what a fellow POW said about McCAIN. I got this from an article where the man stated why he would NOT vote for McCain in the presidential election. He gave many reasons for this, and even though he wasn’t a great fan of McCain’s, harking all the way back to the Naval Academy and their time as POW’s, he makes it clear that McCain was no “traitor”.
    He describes as others have, that McCain refused “early release” as a POW and insisted on staying until those who had been captured before him were released. That’s no “traitor”.

    Your outrage would be better directed at the disgraceful conduct of the Sailors who allowed themselves to be captured by Iran and the statements they gave with absolutely NO DURESS, NO TORTURE and within just a few hours of being captured.

    Here’s some excerpts from his article:

    “People often ask if I was a Prisoner of War with John McCain. My answer is always “No – John McCain was a POW with me.” The reason is I was there for 8 years and John got there 2 1/2 years later, so he was a POW for 5 1/2 years. And we have our own seniority system, based on time as a POW.

    McCain’s treatment as a POW:

    1) Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969. After September of 1969 the Vietnamese stopped the torture and gave us increased food and rudimentary health care. Several hundred of us were captured much earlier. I got there April 20, 1965 so my bad treatment period lasted 4 1/2 years. President Ho Chi Minh died on September 9, 1969, and the new regime that replaced him and his policies was more pragmatic. They realized we were worth a lot as bargaining chips if we were alive. And they were right because eventually Americans gave up on the war and agreed to trade our POW’s for their country. A damn good trade in my opinion! But my point here is that John allows the media to make him out to be THE hero POW, which he knows is absolutely not true, to further his political goals.

    2) John was badly injured when he was shot down. Both arms were broken and he had other wounds from his ejection. Unfortunately this was often the case — new POW’s arriving with broken bones and serious combat injuries. Many died from their wounds. Medical care was non-existent to rudimentary. Relief from pain was almost never given and often the wounds were used as an available way to torture the POW. Because John’s father was the Naval Commander in the Pacific theater, he was exploited with TV interviews while wounded. These film clips have now been widely seen. But it must be known that many POW’s suffered similarly, not just John. And many were similarly exploited for political propaganda.

    3) John was offered, and refused, “early release.” Many of us were given this offer. It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to “admit” that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was “lenient and humane.” So I, like numerous others, refused the offer. This was obviously something none of us could accept. Besides, we were bound by our service regulations, Geneva Conventions and loyalties to refuse early release until all the POW’s were released, with the sick and wounded going first.

    4) John was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart for heroism and wounds in combat. This heroism has been played up in the press and in his various political campaigns. But it should be known that there were approximately 600 military POW’s in Vietnam. Among all of us, decorations awarded have recently been totaled to the following: Medals of Honor — 8, Service Crosses — 42, Silver Stars — 590, Bronze Stars — 958 and Purple Hearts — 1,249. John certainly performed courageously and well. But it must be remembered that he was one hero among many — not uniquely so as his campaigns would have people believe.

    John McCain served his time as a POW with great courage, loyalty and tenacity. More than 600 of us did the same. After our repatriation a census showed that 95% of us had been tortured at least once. The Vietnamese were quite democratic about it. There were many heroes in North Vietnam. I saw heroism every day there. And we motivated each other to endure and succeed far beyond what any of us thought we had in ourselves. Succeeding as a POW is a group sport, not an individual one. We all supported and encouraged each other to survive and succeed. John knows that. He was not an individual POW hero. He was a POW who surmounted the odds with the help of many comrades, as all of us did.”

    In closing, I’m no John McCain “fan”. I disagree with many of his policies. Has the “Hero POW” card been overblown? Possibly, but that’s the nature of politics. Things always get overblown.
    To call this man a “traitor” however is preposterous. Reserve that title for the current POTUS and a long list of others who have sold out our Nation. McCain doesn’t belong on that list.

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  31. Navy Jack 8 August, 2016, 05:28

    The Silver Star was awarded to John McCain for resisting extreme mental and physical cruelties inflicted upon him by his captors in an attempt to obtain a false confession for propaganda purposes. McCain later admitted to signing a confession during his captivity that read “I am a black criminal and I have performed deeds of an air pirate.” McCain denied having made the taped confession you have just heard.

    All pilots during the Vietnam War received the following general order:
    If you are captured and tortured, you must resist, avoid, or evade, to the best of your ability, all enemy efforts to obtain statements or actions that will help the enemy. Examples of statements or actions to resist that are harmful to the US, its allies, or other prisoners, include:
    • Oral or written confessions.
    • Questionnaires or personal history statements.
    • Propaganda recordings and broadcasts.
    • Appeals to other PWs and appeals for surrender or peace.
    • Engagement in self-criticism.
    • Oral or written statements or communications on behalf of the enemy.
    The enemy might use any confession or statement to convict you as a war criminal. It prolongs your right to repatriation until you serve a prison sentence.

    Article V of the Code of Conduct:
    When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country or its allies or harmful to their cause.

    John McCain has received his status and position as a Senator with false claims and false valor. It’s one thing to break down under torture, if he actually was tortured. It is another thing altogether to accept decorations, political advancement and public acclaim based on these lies.

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  32. Bill Erickson 8 August, 2016, 14:37

    I’m in no position to judge John McCain’s behavior when he was a POW, since I was never a POW and therefore can’t say how I would’ve behaved in similar circumstances. But it is possible to compare McCain’s behavior and actions with those of other POWs, most notably James Stockdale, who was a genuine hero and did everything in his power — including self-mutilation and attempted suicide — to prevent any semblance of collaboration and preclude the North Vietnamese from using him as a propaganda tool.

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  33. AHP1081 9 August, 2016, 23:36

    I too cannot judge his actions during his interment . That aside, I can judge him on his activities during his time in office. In short HE IS A CROOK!

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  34. LoneStarHog 12 August, 2016, 06:43

    FYI: The following E-mail was sent this morning to the Hagmann & Hagmann Radio Show. They have a large listening audience and are true Patriots:

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    Note: This is NOT the old and rehashed comments/rumors involving John McCain. This is a newly-discovered CIA tape from The National Archives of the actual recording made of John McCain’s treasonous act.

    Oath Keepers Headline: Breaking News: John McCain’s 1969 “Tokyo Rose” Propaganda Recording Released Showing he WAS a Traitor who Turned Against His Own Country

    Excerpt: An audio recording has surfaced proving that U.S. Senator John McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese by recording a “Tokyo Rose”-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North Vietnamese radio in 1969.

    For many years, American former P.O.W.s who were in the “Hanoi Hilton” North Vietnamese prison with John McCain called him a “Songbird” who collaborated with the enemy against his own country. They accused him of turning against them and against his own country in exchange for preferential treatment while many of the actually brave and honorable American P.O.W.s endured torture and denial of medical care and food for refusing to collaborate. The P.O.W.s branded McCain a traitor who was no hero, but nonetheless used his fake hero status to rise to political power.

    But we only had their word against his – until now. Now, from the U.S. National Archives comes the proof of their allegations; McCain, by his own words, WAS in fact a traitor who collaborated with the enemy by recording a “Tokyo Rose” statement condemning his own nation by admitting “crimes” against the North Vietnamese people, stating “I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people.”

    Headline Story> https://www.oathkeepers.org/breaking-news-john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released/

    So many honorable POWs who were actually heroes went to their graves known as liars, while this character built a political career based upon his lies.

    Stolen Valor of a military decoration or performance level is disgusting. Stolen Valor of others honor, integrity, and valor is beyond reprehensible.

    This phony hero is running for re-election and the Arizona Primary is August 30th. The TRUTH must be disseminated to We The People.

    This Neocon and warmonger MUST be exposed.

    Please consider having our Founder and President Stewart Rhodes as a guest.

    For The Republic and The Great State of Texas,

    LoneStarHog (Hog)
    Texas Oath Keeper Life Member #140

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  35. Dalton 14 August, 2016, 10:35

    Looks like Trump was right

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  36. strayhorse 31 August, 2016, 08:19

    Voters in Arizona have been hacked according to the FBI, so did McCain really win or is this a manchurian candidate positioned by a foreign government, ISIS/ISIL or NGO?

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  37. justdeb 20 September, 2016, 00:14

    Captors act the same now, Isis or Korea or Hanoi–all the same. Read this statement while a gun is held to your head. How many of you would have taken the bullet rather than read an obviously coerced and scripted propaganda statement?

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    • SGTReedUSMC 24 November, 2016, 10:36

      A true HERO would….

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    • Knowledgetracker 16 December, 2016, 19:11

      I’m trying to figure out how this constitutes treason. A coerced, obviously written/read statement from a pow goes not constitute treason. If so, there would be thousands of POWs guilty of treason who have had to read these ridiculous statements through all wars. I can’t speak to whether he was honorable or not, his fellow servicemen will have to make that call, but from scientific evidence of his arm, we know it was broken and not treated.

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      • Arthur 10 February, 2017, 15:09

        Apparently you did bot read the above “Military Code of Conduct” which all nilitary members sign upon enlistment. “….I shall give no oral or written statement…..”…..

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    • AL 18 December, 2016, 20:38

      He lied when he said there was never a recording like that ever made

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    • InsaneSouldier 31 December, 2016, 16:10

      99.7℅ of the men I served with would have met their maker before giving aid and comfort to the enemy by making propaganda tapes or signing written statements but then again it takes a hard man to endure extreme physical distress and McCain is not that. He is example #1 of how not to be a soldier dedicated to Country

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    • Mauricia 16 January, 2017, 22:40

      We all got the same training. We all know the cost … it’s the bullet.

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    • Dan 1 February, 2017, 22:50

      The point is the difference between heroes and traitors, not the traitors’ motivation….

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    • Dan 1 February, 2017, 22:56

      I remember that McCain statement was televised in at least one of the former socialist countries. You might still find a copy.

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  38. Dave 12 December, 2016, 22:45

    Remember McCain’s grandfather was famous in WW2 as Commander Task Force 38 against the Japanese.

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  39. tom 15 December, 2016, 06:30

    When did Newt side with McCain against Trump as mentioned in this article?

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    • Jim 16 December, 2016, 10:10

      Yes, I’d like to know that too. When did Newt side with McCain against Trump?

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      • AL 18 December, 2016, 20:43

        I think it was after Trump made the comment that he didn’t think McCain was a hero for being shot down and captured

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  40. LJ 16 December, 2016, 11:42

    This comes from the lips of the Shipmates who he was supposed to have their backs. McCain shows up every 4 years at election time. If he is such a Patriot, why the hell did he vote to have some benefits taken away from Veterans. Another RINO😡

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  41. Jim 17 December, 2016, 11:04

    Well, this certainly paints a very different picture from the one we have been fed for years.

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  42. Jim Lane 17 December, 2016, 15:14

    According to the story I heard about this McCain was under extreme duress when he made this speech. The V.C. had threatened to torture and kill others under McCain’s command. That doesn’t excuse his actions of course but it might explain it a bit. Now, I don’t know if this is true but for a long time it was the official account of the incident. But it does lend credence to what I’ve said for years about him, I think he has Stockholm’s Syndrome.

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  43. Anon Sativ 18 December, 2016, 08:27

    Good job on this article, mccain is just as much a traitor as Obama the. clintons and most of congress….
    Don’t worry about what the trolls say they are just paid trolls employed by these same traitors

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  44. Messtent 25 December, 2016, 03:41

    Why is this man a Senator? He should have been charged with Treason. While other men were tortured and starved, McCain received special treatment. I suppose it doesn’t hurt to have your father and grandfather Admirals in the U.S. Navy to avoid a military Court Marshall. He has protraided himself as a hero. He is nothing of the sorts. I don’t understand our country. This man ran for President. A man who sold his brothers in arms and his country out. How is it that people like him can bullshit their way into a place of political power. If he sold us out then, he sure as hell would sell us out now.

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    • Archeoastronomer 31 December, 2016, 17:43

      DICK Gregory stated that McCain WAS tried as a traitor by Military Tribunal and SENTENCED TO DEATH! Nixon pardoned him, because of his father. McCain did all he could to hide this information; it looks like someone in the CIA is tired of him. If the Military Tribunal info is true, I wish the CIA would ‘leak’ that too. McCain needs to be ousted from political office; he’s a pretender all these years and a faker.

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  45. Bob 1 January, 2017, 16:33

    I think McCain is a traitor. The fact that he lied about making this recording for all of these years proves that. Other true heroes were threatened with torture, denial of medical treatment, and food still refused to collaborate with the enemy. I think he should be tried for war crimes and punished. I also think the people in Arizona that know about his crimes and still support him are complicit as well.

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  46. Sue Catlady 28 January, 2017, 01:46

    Thank you for telling this story. It is good to know what McCain is and that is no hero, but a traitor, and public enemy. I appreciate your service and your sacrifice.

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  47. Mike 9 February, 2017, 18:19

    Medal of Honor winner and fellow Hanoi Hilton prisoner Colonel Bud Day said, “that’s most outrageous f—— lie I’ve ever heard!” when a smear campaign made these same accusations about John McCain in 2008. I believe Colonel Day over the author of this article anyday.

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    • sicSandee 10 February, 2017, 00:46

      Do you know if he ever actually heard this recording? I would be curious to know his thoughts on it. I recall years ago, hearing a guy on the radio, who was a POW with McCain, discussing a book he had written about time captured. He also claimed McCain got special treatment, once they knew he was an Admirals son. I’ll add his name & book later when I have a chance to look it up.

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    • Dan Shaffer 10 February, 2017, 16:02

      Col. Bud Day also was awarded the Medal o Honor.
      He was as true an American Hero as there ever was.
      He supported McCain at first, but then later on he began to stray away from McCains Politics.
      If you want to read a book about Col. Day.
      Read his book ( Return With Honor).
      He explains about McCain near the end of the book.
      It’s a wonder that all of the POW’S didn’t go mad.
      RIP in Honor, Col. Day

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  48. sicSandee 10 February, 2017, 01:45

    For people are really interested in this topic you should read this article. Why would a former POW go to such lengths to help cover up men left behind?? http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm

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  49. Annie 10 February, 2017, 23:07

    First of all thank you for your service I am grateful that we have Men and women like you That uphold the utmost code And I like to say I am sad in How far down the toilet Our government has gone It’s a very sad day When I Wake up to the TV set and the radio constantly talking about the Democrats Bashing our country and our president And sticking up for the foreigners illegals and Muslims We are America? But apparently Millions have forgotten that a lot of blood was shed for their freedom and the rights of American How sad It was for me that day We are divided and we are at war with one another Only by the grace the power and the strength of the holy spirit will still work within us Those that shows the president Donald Trump to lead us out of this hell-hole that we had done So deep there must be a way To get the rest out of the dark and into the light Quick We are doomed we are all doomed I would like to say For all those And you sir The fight for America Those that are proud Those that have not forgotten The sacrifice Of our loved ones That had fought And lost their life or Had come home not as they did when they went in Mentally or physically War is something that you can never Escape But we must learn from our mistakesThey say history has a way of repeating itself BUT I cannot never recall A time when we in our Country stared turning on its own people This has to be the first 4/me and what a shameful day that was for me

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  50. gruvEdude 11 February, 2017, 04:03

    I had a Vietnam vet fraternity brother that talked of his disgust at liking to kill people. “The Vietnamese did not even want us there.”

    If this war was honorable, yes, soldiers should have backed up the USA. But are McCain’s statements really any worse than a German soldier apologizing for Hitler’s conquests?

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  51. Michael Shatto 11 February, 2017, 17:29

    ***** JOHN McCAIN, TRAITOR *****

    Folks on Facebook mounted attacks against John McCain because he disagrees with Donald Trump. Kinda like Democrats in lock-step, we are supposed to always agree, I reckon.

    So I asked my friend Bill, who was a POW with John McCain.

    Sent: 11-Feb-2017 01:03:39 +0000
    Subject: McCain
    Bill,
    Lot of nasty talk by the Hyper-Political and easily-offended on Facebook.
    They are saying John McCain is a traitor and all the men who were POWs with him knew he cooperated with the enemy.
    This is new to me. What is your experience?
    My best to you. Mike.

    Saturday, February 11, 2017 6:44 AM
    To: ‘Michael Shatto’
    Subject: RE: McCain
    Mike: Anybody can make the most outlandish and crazy claims in this age of unrestricted media. Use your head about claims such as this. Of course, it is not true. Common sense would tell you that there would have been many POW’s who would have brought this to light long ago time and time again if there had been any truth to it. McCain’s conduct was as good as it gets while a POW. For example, Mc Cain roomed with Medal of Honor recipient Col Bud Day who campaigned for and with him when McCain ran for President.
    Best Regards, Bill.

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    • samelljoanne 14 February, 2017, 23:47

      Thank you for speaking the truth. Thank you for your service. Chances are the person who wrote this article would barely stand up for 5 minutes of torture with the Vietnamese let alone years. Its easy to make snap judgments from a comfy chair.

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    • LtCdr 20 February, 2017, 13:00

      You say this would have come out a long time ago……but it did !!!!! This was being discussed in the ’70’s…even mentioned in a book and a movie. Do the research

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  52. Smedley 11 February, 2017, 20:56

    The truth needs to come out about McCain. Admiral Stockdale is a REAL HERO.

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  53. LmRoberts 12 February, 2017, 09:14

    I completely agree. I might also add that McCain’s daddy was an Admiral who kept his son’s records closely guarded so that he would be able to advance into the political realm. If folks would bother to check McCain’s voting record on Veterans’ rights you will note he is not a champion of the Military Vets. Also, keep in mind his political affiliations changed with the direction of the wind, so I dare say he is not a true conservative by any means. He only cares about two things, his power, and his pocket book. He can be bought by the highest bidder, just as he was while captured. He looked out for himself.

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  54. Flora 13 February, 2017, 19:52

    so he’s rightt up there with Hanoi Jane?

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  55. tdanjones 13 February, 2017, 23:58

    LOL I am from Arizona and am truly not a fan of McCain, but this is a little beyond the pale of fair reporting. I think John is a terrible Senator but I see nothing he did wrong under the circumstances he was in. If you look at the code you will notice that there is a part about “I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.” His Dad was an Admiral and he was told he could leave but he stayed. I think that any right minded person would agree that the conditions all the POWs experienced were brutal at best. I don’t like his politics and i think there is something broke in the man but I won’t deny that there might be good reason to have some broke stuff in there. To make this a defamation and a demonetization of him though… I think that is just wrong! I haven’t thought that he was fit for office for a long time but to question his military record is a bit stupid and frankly pathetic!

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    • Sally 18 February, 2017, 03:26

      John McCain did not leave when he was offered the release because he had been there a short while. when they got to McCain and his plane all of the crew were dead except McCain. The plane was shot down by ground missle and the crew members had all been shot in the head with a hand gun. the gun was never found. If McCain had come home at that time he would have been questioned extensively about the crew. He had to stay to let all that die down, Which it did. It has been swept under the rug and forgotten. Considering other things are coming to light about this traitor maybe the murder of the crew will also. McCAns records were all sealed the minute he stepped foot on America soil. WHY?.

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      • Brian 19 February, 2017, 19:16

        McCain was flying an A-4E. He was the pilot on board and there were no others in the one seat aircraft! He HAD NO CREW!

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      • landshark 20 February, 2017, 13:19

        Sally, Read The comment below. I was in Viet Nam when McCain was shot down. He was flying a single seat A4 Skyhawk. No other crew. I would like to know the source of your information. John McCain has disappointed me with much of his behavior in Congress and I wholeheartedly believe the claims about his misconduct as a POW, and that he should be brought to task for his actions. However, to employ the Democrat tactic of producing false claims about the actions of an individual is unacceptable and casts doubt on truthful statements. An investigation by the Department of Defense is in order, and I can only demand it occurs and if in fact John McCain is found culpable in these charges, that appropriate action be taken by the appropriate authorities.

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      • Bill 22 February, 2017, 00:03

        His crew?! He flew an A-4, a single pilot aircraft

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    • frank 19 February, 2017, 14:33

      Do you have some proof of what you’re saying?
      If this wasn’t the “OATH KEEPERS” site, I may doubt it also, but this site is honest and truthful!
      McCain is a dishonest person at best, and needs to retire or be arrested for TREASON.

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  56. Tony Iocca 14 February, 2017, 17:57

    Apparently this recording was kept from the public in-order to protect McCain’s reputation. Not that this recording is “unforgivable” and was most likely obtained by coercion. Other P.O.W.’s had been charged for doing similar deeds under the same circumstances. After McCain’s statement Congress made statements like this a non-offense. I will say it is a big part of the McCain legacy.

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  57. david brock 18 February, 2017, 14:46

    when is mc cain going to stand trial here in the usa for treason and espionage ?

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  58. a. caballero 19 February, 2017, 12:51

    Thank you soooooo much for posting that TRUE STORY!!!! God bless your and your work; God Bless Prez Trump and First Family and God bless our Republic!!!! 🙂

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  59. patty 19 February, 2017, 15:26

    Reading through all I could read. McCain needs to step down. He should be tried for treason. If all the men were shot in the head except him when they got to the plane. He was saved to be a traitor
    Which he was called a songbird. He deserves tp be punished if all this is true!

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  60. Vrina 20 February, 2017, 12:21

    McCain is saying Obama is behind security leaks which he states are coming from the highest level. I suspect McCain himself is behind the leaks as he seems to continually make comments agains Trump’s policies. If I learned anything working for the government and serving in the military, many in positions of authority are great liars and you cannot always believe what you see and hear. I love my country, and wonder why all the negative talk of Putin in continual. Trump is right when he states our government does not totally have clean hands. Putin at least states he is going to do what is good for Russia, our politicians often seem out only for themselves, their people be damned.

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  61. Catmama 21 February, 2017, 00:46

    I don’t know what to believe about his military service, that seems to be something he will have to answer to God about at this time. However according to his betrayal of the conservative party and his service in the Senate he sucks. Even if he had been a good man once upon a time, he is a sell out now aND I have 0 respect for him.

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  62. Aand 21 February, 2017, 07:50

    He shattered his arm and leg, nearly drowned, got bayoneted and beaten with a rifle butt, and the NVA refused to treat his wounds. They instead beat him to get information out of him. So I don’t blame him for singing. I’d do the same.

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  63. Repeat 22 February, 2017, 08:15

    I guess it’s up to God to sort out.

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  64. Kelleigh Nelson 22 February, 2017, 14:12

    The one argument that I’m sure others have made is that we have no idea of the torture they received. We do know, as does the military, that all men have their breaking points. Because McCain’s father was famous, was he given special treatment, or was his treatment particularly brutal?
    We can all sit here and say McCain was a traitor for doing what he did, but in reality, we really still don’t know. Do I like or trust the guy? Hell no, and I consider him a Socialist democrat in republican drag. Do I believe he easily caved? Yes, I do, but still, we have no idea what the Vietnamese did to him…

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  65. Dean 22 February, 2017, 15:04

    Unseal the documents.. no need to hide behind the truth!

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  66. Rick 23 February, 2017, 13:31

    I worked with a guy in the late 80’s who had been a POW in the Hanoi Hilton and he said the two most hated people by the POW’s was John MCCain and Jane Fonda.

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  67. Roklon 24 February, 2017, 11:31

    McCain should have been given a fair trail, and executed. Certainly,he should not bed allowed to serve as a senator.

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  68. woodrow05 24 February, 2017, 22:58

    I have always held contempt for the cowardly johnny wet-start. He did all he could to misguide us family members of POW/MIA’s. The fact that he has been so highly regarded by his constituents, is completely appalling to me.He is a very poor excuse of a senator, and a userper of his position, The guy should be drawn and quartered, along with obozo, clinton,kerry,etc.,etc.

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  69. Marty 25 February, 2017, 00:34

    One problem with charging McCain with treason for actions he may have taken while a prisoner of the North Vietnamese, President Nixon pardoned all returning POWs as many had broken under torture and violated the Oath.

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    • Hawk 26 February, 2017, 19:49

      Trump was right about McCain

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      • SouthernChick 27 February, 2017, 00:03

        Yes, Trump was right and has been right about other things, like Obama’s birth certificate. Trump has great sources and has read a lot over the years. He’s very intelligent and isn’t taken as serious as he should be as president. The day will come for him to get the respect he deserves, until then he will keep working to Make America Great Again!

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      • lb 29 March, 2017, 02:32

        have you ever been captured or tortured? How quick we are to judge those who have suffered things we haven’t and can in no way comprehend.

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    • Duane 27 February, 2017, 00:18

      Your right, Nixon did pardon all PW returning home from Viet Nam.

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    • CrustyOldGeezer 13 March, 2017, 21:13

      Nixon Pardoned PAST events.

      He has more than AMPLE violations since being in office.
      And he achieved his political positions through FRAUD.

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    • McFraud 15 March, 2017, 06:28

      McCain should be charged with new treason crimes for going to Munic and calling for Trumps assasination.

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    • katcha 25 March, 2017, 14:53

      we are all taught to resist if caputure, it not easy , nixon did the right thing

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  70. Al Carpenter 28 February, 2017, 15:17

    I was a POW in NVN a year longer than John McCain. The following was my recent response to an acquaintance who asked for my comments on the OK article.
    *************************************

    Don –

    I am an OathKeeper, and I find this piece very disappointing. Rhodes should talk to more of those of us who were THERE, and pay less attention to those who weren’t, or who just like to hear themselves talk!

    I was shot down almost exactly one year before McCain was and, while I never lived in the same cell with him, we did live under the same circumstances. The majority of POWs who were tortured, including myself, made similar written or video statements, as a result, and we don’t particularly want our fellow citizens to hear/see them, now, and make judgments from their “holier than thou” position. “Walk a mile in my shoes”, before judging any of us! I flew the same model aircraft as McCain, ejected at about 600 mph, as he did, and suffered very similar, very painful, injuries. Enough pain, or the threat of it, once already inflicted, will cause the great majority of individuals to say or do ANYTHING, to get it to stop! I can easily demonstrate this basic truth to anyone, in a very short period of time, should they not now believe it! This is one reason McCain is so adamantly anti-waterboarding/torture – such methods often yield unreliable results.

    I have met McCain, but I don’t really know him, except by his performance as a politician, and that has not made of me a big fan. He is a consummate politician, with whom I disagree on many issues but, I do know, well, many who lived with him in prison and, while he is/was perhaps not the most likeable guy, they all tell me that his service as a POW was honorable.

    So, until you KNOW WTF you are promoting, I suggest you do as I would strongly suggest to McCain – go back home, STFU, and put your efforts into something positive – we’re getting enough negativity from the liberal/progressives!

    V/R

    Al

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  71. BIGBALLS 19 March, 2017, 10:57

    mccain is a punk, paul is going to show him who is boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trump 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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